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The search for an 993 RS
- Thread starter tp81
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This forum has only ever given me ideas on what to spend money on......not how to save it.
Yet as we are all 993 people on here, I am sure everyone agrees there is no better modern classic than the cars we have, not investments but cars that can be enjoyed, maintained and values hold firm, brilliant.
Moving on and away from money.
Back to the test drive of the car, whilst it looks almost identical aside from the spoilers and subtle side skirts, it sits slightly lower according the specification and this gives it a real purposeful stance.
There is an official Porsche workshop document that lists all of the differences between the RS and the C2, most of these are unseen but all serve a purpose.
The first thing noticed is the door is light, sliding in and then closing it the noise is similar but it just feels thinner. On start up the noise in the cabin is loud, there is very little sound deadening with the thinner carpets,no rear seats and thinner glass, this car rightly or wrongly has no sound pad above the engine. You hear everything.
I wasn't sure what to expect with the engine but was pleased to feel the revs rise and fall with a flick of the accelerator, much quicker than my own cars, almost instant. No doubt this could be achieved on any car with the fitting of a lightweight single mass flywheel, it really feels good, much more alive / responsive.
The differences in the RS on the drive were, the eagerness of the engine, the gearbox is completely different more precise, shorter much more mechanical and tight, the noise is always there from a dull throb to a real thrashing behind your head, it really is incredible and adds to the whole feel. The steering ratio is different which is subtle but a lot of these changes are and then there is the suspension which is firm but not harsh. The car feels extremely solid, there are no squeaks or groans or anything other than the sound of the engine and the car pounding along the road. Is it faster, yes, most definitely not massively but much more urgent and willing with the changes to the gear ratios, remapped engine management and really strong brakes on what is a lighter car make the whole feel very different and focused. I really did enjoy the time spent in the car.
The end result of all the rambling, is that I have agreed a deal on the car.
There are few issues to sort, the LSD plates are needing changed (seemingly common) and the seller has agreed to have a full service carried out prior to delivery. The car is now with a local Porsche specialist to get the work done, he happens to be the official Singer mechanic for the UK. Seems like a safe pair of hands, I happened to ask what else was in and currently no Singers but a lightweight 959 and Carerra GT, good company then.
Yet as we are all 993 people on here, I am sure everyone agrees there is no better modern classic than the cars we have, not investments but cars that can be enjoyed, maintained and values hold firm, brilliant.
Moving on and away from money.
Back to the test drive of the car, whilst it looks almost identical aside from the spoilers and subtle side skirts, it sits slightly lower according the specification and this gives it a real purposeful stance.
There is an official Porsche workshop document that lists all of the differences between the RS and the C2, most of these are unseen but all serve a purpose.
The first thing noticed is the door is light, sliding in and then closing it the noise is similar but it just feels thinner. On start up the noise in the cabin is loud, there is very little sound deadening with the thinner carpets,no rear seats and thinner glass, this car rightly or wrongly has no sound pad above the engine. You hear everything.
I wasn't sure what to expect with the engine but was pleased to feel the revs rise and fall with a flick of the accelerator, much quicker than my own cars, almost instant. No doubt this could be achieved on any car with the fitting of a lightweight single mass flywheel, it really feels good, much more alive / responsive.
The differences in the RS on the drive were, the eagerness of the engine, the gearbox is completely different more precise, shorter much more mechanical and tight, the noise is always there from a dull throb to a real thrashing behind your head, it really is incredible and adds to the whole feel. The steering ratio is different which is subtle but a lot of these changes are and then there is the suspension which is firm but not harsh. The car feels extremely solid, there are no squeaks or groans or anything other than the sound of the engine and the car pounding along the road. Is it faster, yes, most definitely not massively but much more urgent and willing with the changes to the gear ratios, remapped engine management and really strong brakes on what is a lighter car make the whole feel very different and focused. I really did enjoy the time spent in the car.
The end result of all the rambling, is that I have agreed a deal on the car.
There are few issues to sort, the LSD plates are needing changed (seemingly common) and the seller has agreed to have a full service carried out prior to delivery. The car is now with a local Porsche specialist to get the work done, he happens to be the official Singer mechanic for the UK. Seems like a safe pair of hands, I happened to ask what else was in and currently no Singers but a lightweight 959 and Carerra GT, good company then.
Sounds like the perfect 993. I find the standard C2 a bit 'heavy' all round, especially trundling along. A lighter version with more get up and go would be excellent, which I guess is what you've got. Good luck with it, I look forward to the updates and the pics.
Great news Tom, I know what you mean about the 'alive' feel an RS has it's just intoxicating :thumbs: Guess a little bit more 'refined' in a 993 than 'raw' in a 964?
Interested about your view on no engine soundpad. You mentioned you tried a couple cars back to back, I guess the other one did have the sound pad? Was there much difference, was it intrusive at all or any resonance at certain revs? Considering removing mine but don't want to deafen myself in the process :bandit:
Looking forward to seeing some more of your superb photo's soon :thumbs:
Interested about your view on no engine soundpad. You mentioned you tried a couple cars back to back, I guess the other one did have the sound pad? Was there much difference, was it intrusive at all or any resonance at certain revs? Considering removing mine but don't want to deafen myself in the process :bandit:
Looking forward to seeing some more of your superb photo's soon :thumbs:
ColinC
Suzuka
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That's great news Tom - hope all goes well concluding the deal!
Having driven a 964 RS I envy your purchase although I must say I've never been a fan of the RS bodykit on the 993. My dream 993 would be a C2 with RS running gear and stance.......I just love the lines and look of the 'base' model.
Having driven a 964 RS I envy your purchase although I must say I've never been a fan of the RS bodykit on the 993. My dream 993 would be a C2 with RS running gear and stance.......I just love the lines and look of the 'base' model.
New997buyer
Fuji
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What a fantastic read. Congratulations. I'll be home a few times this year and hopefully will get a chance on one those trips to see your new toy.
Loved the write up on your first drive - felt like I was there :thumb:
Loved the write up on your first drive - felt like I was there :thumb:
ch3tman said:Congratulations 8) - the RS looks stunning! :worship:
If the car is getting prepped at where I think it is, I may have a chance to see it very soon - I'm seeing GC this forthcoming week
Ch3tman, yes. G seems to be the man with the knowledge, there are a few issues to sort so I am waiting on him clearing his feet or organizing his workshop then I will be guided by his expertise.
Congrats tp81 - she looks lovely - colour is particularly understated for an RS and I also prefer without the CS spoilers. Seems there is a similar car currently for sale at gray paul classics at the moment but yours has a better spec.
What are the timings for collecting her? And do you think you'll be able to leave her alone, or do you already have a list of jobs?
What are the timings for collecting her? And do you think you'll be able to leave her alone, or do you already have a list of jobs?
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