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Worst news possible :(

huntert

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I have been using about one litre of oil per 600 miles and Porsche Nottingham told me this was within tolerance....whilst driving to Aberdeen from Nottingham the engine management light came on Orange so i continued to drive and when i arrived in Aberdeen took it to the Porsche centre for diagnosis....They suspect borescore on one cylinder and have told me that the Diagnostic side means an engine strip that will cost me atleast £1800. This is without the fault being rectified or the engine being rebuilt. As i have only had the car six weeks it has a 3 month warranty..but the warranty company will not pay for diagnostic work incase the fault is not ultimately covered by the warranty....im totally gutted.
 
Gutted for you but hopefully at the time of purchase, you went in eyes wide open and read up on bore scores, IMS failures and the like on the forum before making your decision.

Please keep us updated on what warranty company decide to do in the end.

~ Maxie
 
To be honest when i went to buy the car i had never heard of bore score and assumed that all the reviews about the Cayman where correct. What are the actual tell tail signs? The car runs fine. Im gutted. The engine fault showed up as a cat fault..and when they removed the spark plugs, cylinder 6 spark plug was oily..thats the only info i have at the mo. :(
 
A bore score inspection during a PPI would have spotted this and with that you could have negotiated on price by a couple of k (minimum, considering it costs more to repair) or walk away. If it hasn't been done already, upgrade your IMS to ensure you have the latest design (from MY 2006 onwards).

~ Maxie
 
huntert said:
What are the actual tell tail signs?

Usually you will get an unnecessary amount of sooting on the central tailpipes. It's easier to spot on a Carrera because it's the near-side tail-pipe that soots more than the off-side on cars which also have this issue.

~ Maxie
 
Any idea of how much im looking at for the whole job from Porsche?
 
Maxie said:
huntert said:
What are the actual tell tail signs?

Usually you will get an unnecessary amount of sooting on the central tailpipes. It's easier to spot on a Carrera because it's the near-side tail-pipe that soots more than the off-side on cars which also have this issue.

~ Maxie

I never had any sooting but did notice some blue smoke when slowing down and pulling away again at roundabouts for example............
 
huntert said:
Any idea of how much im looking at for the whole job from Porsche?

AFAIK, I don't think Porsche will do a repair on the engine - it is usually a complete replacement engine with pretty much the same design (fault) dare I say. This is where your warranty will be tested as a new Cayman engine is approx £10k - £12k or so....? There are specialists who can repair your existing engine for less and will rectify (modify) the design whilst they're at it. Porsche specialists, Hartech, appears to be at the forefront for these kind of repairs. Quite a few of the members on this forum have taken their cars to him for the same reasons as the one you may be experiencing now.

~ Maxie
 
I havent got £10k to gamble with...........looks like il have to find another solution :(
 
Give Hartech a call and do not let OPC fix it - doubtful as they may suggest a new engine c£10k+ It may be possible to diagnose without a full strip-down so you know where you're at.

Under warranty you say? Is this from a dealer and you look to be in a similar position with another (996) buyer whose engine went kaput resulting in a legal challenge with the dealer.

The Mods have 'moderated' the thread beacuse it is is now sub-judice but it may be worth a pm to seek his advice :dont know: I think its in the 996 section?

You may however need to understand your position driving with 'check engine' light on and what the book says :dont know:

Best of luck :thumb:
 
Surely it does not need a strip down to diagnose bore score...Whats wrong with a boroscope inspection :?:
 
:eek: Gutted for you huntert.

Any money you pay for an expert diagnosis of the problem will be money well spent.

Personally I'd speak to Hartech and get the car trailered to them but you may need to get this cleared by the seller/warranty company first.

Make a clear note of the mileage you've done since buying the car and put everything that's happened, what you're intending to do and what you expect from them in writing to the seller/warranty company asap.

I would hope that once the diagnosis is done you'd be able to reclaim the cost of that from the warranty company too.

Good luck :nooo:
 
Email from OPC

Good afternoon Mr Thomson



We have been investigating the higher oil consumption on your Cayman and have found that spark plug tube for cylinder number 6 is oil up indicating damage to the bore on cylinder 6. To ascertain the cause of this and the extend of the damage we would need to strip the engine. The cost to do this would be £1584 including VAT and would take two to three days to do. We need to do this before I can approach your warranty company to see if the repair is covered as we cannot tell them what is the cause of the fault at the moment.

Please let me know if you would like us to go ahead with the engine strip.



Kind regards



Rhiannon
 
As I said before I'd ring Hartech, tell them that, and see what they say.

I'd be very surprised if they'd want anything like that money to ascertain what's required and when it comes to fixing it I'm sure that the warranty company would rather pay a bill from Hartech than one from the OPC.
 

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