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Update! Back into 993 ownership !

Nik

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Evening all... Have been trying to come back to the fold for awhile now, but haven't been able to (or haven't had the tme!) to find a good 993 for the right money. Having had a C2S and a C4S, I've wanted to have a 993 C2, preferably Varioram, and ideally something to keep - having made the mistake of selling two nice examples already!

http://www.northwayporscheltd.co.uk/used/porsche/911/993-carrera-2/reading/berkshire/14673572

So with this background, does anyone know the high mileage example at Ray Northway ? Admittedly has done more miles than I would have liked, but I understand it has had a lot of £££ spent on it recently (incl. new clutch, brakes, tyres, suspension, etc) so would be interested to know if anyone has any info on the car ?

Am not too keen the steering wheel or alloys, but those bits can always be swapped out if the rest of the car checks out.

Am fully aware that it may require a bit of money spent on it in the coming years, and will have an inspection carried out before jumping in. Just wondering if anyone knows the car or it's history ?

Views welcome - positive or negative! I did search the forum in case it was covered before, didn't see anything but pls point me in the right direction in case I've missed a previous thread.

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I was at Northway today, and had a superficial nose around it as they gave it a wash. Looks to be well looked after. Personally really like wheels and steering wheel. Am 10 minutes from northway, and happy to swap a black 4 spoke steering wheel for the atiwe!

Can't give any more detail on the car, but I can recommend Ray and Paul's integrity. They will give you the full truth on the car. They will be totally honest. I have had my 993 serviced there for the last 2.5 years, on occasion travelling 2+ hours to use them rather than a nearer garage. This morning I was there looking at a 987 with my wife. She is going to buy it.

If you're reasonably nearby, buying from Northway should give you a warm fuzzy feeling.
 
Thanks for the reply/feedback. Have always heard good things about Northway, so take some comfort that they are selling it and have known the car for awhile. Ray seemed very upfront about the car when I spoke to him today.

I'm just under 2hrs from Northway, and should be popping down on Monday to take a look and confirm things.

Glad to hear it looked ok when you glanced over it, seems a nice enough example from the pictures, despite the mileage being on the high side. All about condition of course, so will report back Monday!
 
This looks a really nice car superficially - and the wheels really suit it.

So long as the car checks out mechanically, the mileage shouldn't be an issue - particularly as it is a keeper.

Incidentallly, it may be just me seeing things, but asking prices do seem to be on the up for these cars at the moment.
 
Goose said:
Incidentallly, it may be just me seeing things, but asking prices do seem to be on the up for these cars at the moment.

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OP - Take the bling stereo out, swap the wheel back to original and just enjoy the car. No reason not to at that mileage. Berni can vouch for high miles :thumb:
 
Mindful of starting another steering wheel "debate", I just have to ask, is that steering wheel still in its transit packing :dont know:

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The steering wheel looks like the alancantra version of mine but 340mm compared to my preferred 365mm for the 993 :?:

Whilst I prefer the Raid steering wheels to OEM I think 340mm is too small for the car.

Th car looks great on the pics even inside. I saw many 60-100,000 miles examples in my search which were complete dogs inside.

I still remember Strasse telling me about the 180k Vesuvious 2S they stripped down the engine on the owners request and said it did not need doing. If this car has had money spent on it to sort everything out that needed doing on it recently its a cheap 993 in today pricing and will probably be as cheap / cheaper as any other to run (ie many 60k examples need refreshing eg suspension etc.....)

Well worth a look in my view as cars nowhere near as nice without warranty from a dealer are currently going for the same more or more.
 
Goose said:
This looks a really nice car superficially - and the wheels really suit it.

So long as the car checks out mechanically, the mileage shouldn't be an issue - particularly as it is a keeper.

Incidentallly, it may be just me seeing things, but asking prices do seem to be on the up for these cars at the moment.

Thx. Agree re mileage. Am told it has been well looked after but should know more tomorrow. Having done some research, those 18 Sport Classics seem to rank among the lowest weights for 18" wheels.

Have been looking for a 993 awhile now and my impression is that prices certainly do seem to be on the up. The good cars always seem to be snapped up pretty quickly. Personally, I would either want to pay up for a fully sorted mint example, or buy an honest car at the lower end of price spectrum and spend a bit to get it fully sorted.


Zingari said:
OP - Take the bling stereo out, swap the wheel back to original and just enjoy the car. No reason not to at that mileage. Berni can vouch for high miles :thumb:

Yup, I have a Becker cascade and a CDR21 from my C4S, just need to decide which one to drop in! Think the ad said that the original parts would be supplied with, so would be good if it comes with.
 
GT4 said:
Mindful of starting another steering wheel "debate", I just have to ask, is that steering wheel still in its transit packing :dont know:

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jonttt said:
... The car looks great on the pics even inside. I saw many 60-100,000 miles examples in my search which were complete dogs inside.
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Well worth a look in my view as cars nowhere near as nice without warranty from a dealer are currently going for the same more or more.

Fully agree and I am hoping it lives up to the pictures. Thanks for all the feedback, much appreciated. I was looking into the Raid/Atiwe wheels when looking at mods to my last 993 and the one in the car does look like the smaller 340mm one. Not sure if the trim looks a little out of place, but will report back after a drive tomorrow (assuming the predicted storm doesn't throw my plans!)...
 
Those wheel have a strong demand on other car makes eg the 340mm suits the Z3m coupe's and roadster at lot better (partly as they have lighter steering to start with) and are a popular mod on them so you will always get a decent 2nd hand price for one to fund a 3 spoke (or even OEM original :eek: ) wheel of your choice. Its a simple half hour job (some religious prayers involved) to swap over.

At the end of the day the steering wheel and wheels are easy changes and so not put you off buying at all.

Good luck with the viewing. It really is a car that would have interested me ie either looking at the bottom or top of the market (each has its advantages to me) and that seems a great bottom of the market car :thumb:
 
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Hi nik,

I saw this car few weeks ago. (Iv bought myself one now)

Like you iv been wanting to get back into a porsche (previously had a 996). My plan was to buy in nov-dec months as they u know you'll be getting a good price!

Cheap cars will get snapped up. I put a non refundable deposit on my car before iv even seen it!

Anyway... Back to the car...

Cons:
- high milage the milage scares me but..... Good thing is im very sure northways can offer some reassurance. Warranty? Fixed price engibe rebuild etc. remember there is no harm in asking what you want.

Pros:
- steering wheel, alloys can all be changed to your own taste -(no perminant mods that will effect value)
- (the biggest positive....) Northways! My cars with them right now. Ray and the crew are good / honest people.

Little about my first experience with northways about 3 years ago i bought a 996. It had a heavy clutch so i went to a popular specialist 2 miles from me (not mentioning any names!) they looked at the clutch and quoted me £600-800 to fix. Being a labour intensive job and depending on what parts were needed. I was so close to booking it in then decided ill go see northway too (20 miles away). Met Ray, he looked at the car for 3 mins and advised to start with a change of clutch assistor spring! £70 job. We did that and clutch was fine! Even to this date as im still in contact with the guy i sold car too its never needed a new clutch.

Please remember that was the first tine i've ever met Ray, and he saved me £700 ish. At that time this was alot of money to me (still is but you get what i mean) and ill never forget it!

They are 1 dealer I would defo buy a car off! I would be cheeky enough to ask for 1-2 year warranty or 1-2 servicing so if you get a mileage related issue with the car youve saved that money else where.

Hope this helps.

Very happy with northways! And all my porsches will be going to only them.
 
Thanks for the detailed reply Verinder - appreciated. Nice to see that at least a couple of people on here have seen it! :)

Per your experiences, I've only ever heard good things about Ray and the team at Northway. Its the only reason that i'm even considering the car, and gives me a lot of comfort that they know the car well. Will have a chat tomorrow about warranty/etc - given their reputation, I'd be happy to take a hand-shake rather than anything in writing, but interested in your thoughts?

The black car you've bought looks amazing - love the LMs!


jonttt said:
...you will always get a decent 2nd hand price for one to fund a 3 spoke (or even OEM original :eek: ) wheel of your choice. Its a simple half hour job (some religious prayers involved) to swap over.

Good luck with the viewing. It really is a car that would have interested me ie either looking at the bottom or top of the market (each has its advantages to me) and that seems a great bottom of the market car :thumb:

May need to look into wheel alternatives, just one of the many items on the list to check/address... thanks for the good wishes - my thoughts exactly about buying either the top or bottom of the market.
 
Alloys

Hi Nik

I've always liked the 'classic 2' alloys my first 911 had the 'classic 1s', and although a shite to keep clean always looked good IMHO, see below... In fact I wanted to upgrade to the '2s' as fitted to the car at Northway...

Don't worry about the miles, just re-visit some of Berni's posts for reassurance.



Damn I wish I had kept the old girl !! aircooled heaven.....
:thumbs: :thumbs:
 
Thank you sir!! I gotta admit, the classic 2's are growing on me, suspect final decision will be made when I see the car tomorrow.

As for your comment about wishing you'd kept her... I've made that mistake twice so this time she will be a keeper!

Will check out Berni's posts. The miles are definitely on the high side, but I feel as though there should not be any insurmountable issues, even if a rebuild/respray are due somewhere down the line (and I'd hope to recovery some of that cost if I ever sold, assuming the job was done well and at reasonable cost).

Only other criticism is that I'm not a huge fan of the interior colour scheme, but I prefer it to an all-grey/all-blue.

Thanks for the message! :thumbs:
 

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