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Thinking of a Chrysler Voyager ?

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no not for me thank god ! well here is a very good reason to say no !

http://www.euroncap.com/content/safety_ratings/ratings.php?id1=6

Not even a 2 star car in today's day and age, oh dear......




MPVs: SOME MANUFACTURERS STILL LAZY ABOUT SAFETY



Euro NCAP today releases test results for its latest car line-up and is shocked to find that certain manufacturers are still ignoring Euro NCAP’s call for stronger safety measures in family cars. An MPV, the Chrysler Voyager has again been awarded a poor safety score of two stars with the last star struck through, seven years after it originally received a two-star result.


Euro NCAP first tested a collection of MPVs, including the Voyager, back in 1999. Only two out of eight cars received a four-star rating, the maximum available at that time. In its testing, Euro NCAP noted that MPVs’ were weaker in frontal impact tests. Consequently, many manufacturers have made great improvements to their vehicles since then, particularly in this area. In August 2006, Euro NCAP awarded the Ford S-MAX 36 points and a five-star rating, making it the best performing MPV to date.


However, as the Chrysler Voyager shows, despite this progress, some manufacturers are continuing to sell cars that are little changed from those tested in 1999. In this month’s results, the right hand drive Voyager did not meet the minimum score for a three star Adult Occupant Protection rating. The Voyager’s results also indicated an unacceptably high risk of serious or fatal injury, resulting in the last star being struck through.


Euro NCAP Chairman, Claes Tingvall, said, “I find it shocking that, in seven years, this manufacturer has not been able to improve the safety of this MPV - a car that is clearly targeting families. Still worse is that Chrysler continues to sell this version in the UK whilst a better-equipped and better-performing version is available in left hand drive across the rest of Europe. I do hope that Chrysler intends to show a greater commitment to safety in the future.”


Today’s results also include some disappointing pedestrian protection scores. Again, the Chrysler Voyager is the worst performer, scoring no points at all and being awarded no stars. The Jeep Grand Cherokee, also made by Chrysler, performed equally poorly in 2005.


Euro NCAP Chairman, Claes Tingvall, said, “I am continually disappointed by the lack of commitment and effort shown by manufacturers to improving the level of pedestrian protection in their vehicles. This is an area where there are few front-runners and massive room for improvement.”


Results released today are in the MPV, Small Off-Roader and Small Family categories.


The ratings for these cars can be seen in more detail at
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. The complete test results will be available from 31st January 2007.


Also available on the website is Euro NCAP’s new press pack ‘A ten-year journey for MPVs’.


Please don’t hesitate to ask us if you need film footage on this month’s test results or on the MPVs included in the Press Pack.


Euro NCAP’s commitment to consumers ensures that test results are released as soon as possible. Keep checking our website for details of forthcoming results.


For further information please contact: Cordelia Wilson, Communications Manager +32 2 4007746 or

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Summary of Results



Occupant Protection


Child Protection


Pedestrian Protection


MPV


Chrysler Voyager

2 stars strikethrough
4 stars
0 stars

SMALL OFF-ROADER

Chevrolet Captiva
4 stars
3 stars
2 stars

SMALL FAMILY

Volkswagen Eos
4 stars
4 stars
2 stars
Volvo C30
5 stars
4 stars
1 star






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Oh dear ! We had one for about a year and loved the spacious car......seats for the kids to crash out in when they were young and with the 3.2 ltr engine, plenty oumph!

No more then for me...


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from this months sniff petrol

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I was in a Voyager travelling down the M1 a few years ago. Something happened several cars in front us and all drivers slammed on the brakes including the driver of the Voyager, everybody came to a sudden halt except for the Voyager, that just carried on into the back of a Mercedes. The driver was driving v sensibly and certainly wasn't to close it was just a sh*t car.
And apparently it still is.

They are death traps don't get one and if you've got one get rid of it asap.

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Previous poster said:
Quote: Originally posted by Bud Fox on 13 February 2007

They are death traps don't get one and if you've got one get rid of it asap.
Not sure they will be using that in there next ad campaign! lol

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Interesting that we're all more conscious of the NCAP results nowadays.

I looked at a Voyager and was under the impression that the latest version was safer. Anyway, it has two central seats and a bench in the back, which means that that if we wanted to carry any load, we could only seat 4.

Great for a 5 person family. Deeeerrrrrr ....


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what is disgraceful is how different the US safety tests are so what is a 5 star car over there could easily be just a 3 star car over here

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Previous poster said:
Quote: Originally posted by So Poo on 13 February 2007
Previous poster said:
Quote: Originally posted by Bud Fox on 13 February 2007They are death traps don't get one and if you've got one get rid of it asap.
Not sure they will be using that in there next ad campaign! lol [/i:akT4To8ep2]
I'm not so sure.... It's fairly catchy, straight to the point and will certainly make them stand out from their competitors. :)

Was there a Dudley Moore film where he decided to tell the truth in adverts. Volvo became "shaped like a brick but safe" :)

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just curious, but: safety matters aside, is there any reason one would select the Chrysler over, say, a Renault Espace?

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one of the reasons I bought my Renault was it because it had 5* Ncap.

Not that I plan to have any accidents like have kids or hit over pedestrians....


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At least the pedestrian test came back with 0 stars ie. nobody around to make a claim against you!

Awful in this day and age, but not too surprising given it's American heritage.

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Previous poster said:
Quote: Originally posted by tim993 on 13 February 2007

just curious, but: safety matters aside, is there any reason one would select the Chrysler over, say, a Renault Espace?
Price is a factor, it may sound silly in the face of the safety info.

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Previous poster said:
Quote: Originally posted by Stuttgart Spy on 13 February 2007
Previous poster said:
Quote: Originally posted by tim993 on 13 February 2007just curious, but: safety matters aside, is there any reason one would select the Chrysler over, say, a Renault Espace?
Price is a factor, it may sound silly in the face of the safety info.[/i:wJTMVLO2oU]

Too true, ask any Jeep Grand Cherokee owner why they chose that and they'll say leather, aircon, 12 speaker stereo, loads of room and it's cheaper than a Disco!

It's American isn't it....it must be cool, the same way Florida, Disneyland and McDonalds is....cynical barsteward I am!

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Previous poster said:
Quote: Originally posted by tim993 on 13 February 2007

just curious, but: safety matters aside, is there any reason one would select the Chrysler over, say, a Renault Espace?
Espace has always offered a lot of flexibility for an MPV and Renault incorporate a lots of toys, but this is their downfall and where it normally all starts falling apart.

The old Espace did not exactly have a great reputation for reliability and the new one is worse. What do you say when I actually only know of one person who has an Espace and has not had it go wrong? Mind you, can't have manby accidents if its not on the road :wink:

Close friend had the previous generation. The wiring loom came loose and wrapped around the steering column, which meant the steering jammed as he was driving through a roundabout. Air bag discharged for no reason. Clutch and gearbox were on the way out at year 3-4 which is when it was traded in. Servicing some of these and the brake componentry is apparentyl very difficult because of the conversion from LHD design to RHD (of course you#d never guess that was going to happen now would you!).

Shame really because Renault do seem to produce some interesting kit.


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i see, so price and reliability. Sensible stuff, i guess!

(Mate of mine is on his second Espace in about 11 or so years - 1st was N reg, which seemed to be going on forever. Last year he got a brand new one; I thought it was quite cheap for so much car and as far as i know, no problems yet. Seems very economical too. And that's the sum total of my knowledge and experience of Renaults! Don't know much about Jeep's either, except some friends run a Liberty Sport and it was cheap as chips, plus great dealer service.)

I've never had a need for a people carrier myself - for a big vehicle it has always been a 4x4 that fits the bill.




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