Speed Camera Question

[Simon W]

Just as my licence was about to become completely clean, I've got caught doing 40 in a 30. Again. I've been back to the road that I was caught on and the details are as follows. NO signs indicating speed limit for my entire journey from place of work to speed camera. Industrial area - no residential around. Does anyone know what the rules are regarding speed signage prior to camera? Or indeed whether there's any chance I can get off on this little technicality? Is there a default speed limit for that road environment.

Thanks


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[Gatekeeper]

Unfortuantly Simon, I think you'll find that if there are no signs then the speed limit is 30mph.

Quite a few years ago, when the police use to pull you over and give you a friendly ticking off, instead of sitting in a van pointing a laser gun at you, I tried the same argument that there wasn't any signs saying 30mph. This is where he told me that its 30 unless indicated otherwise.


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[Toby Armfield]

Those 30 mph zones may be illegal - are there street lights along the road you were caught on - if there are and they are less than 200 yards apart then it is a valid 30 zone - if the lights are more than 200 yards aprt then it is not a valid 30 mph zone - also signs are apparently required check out:

http://www.abd.org.uk/30.htm

Section 84(3) of the Act clearly states that, where a speed limit order under section 84(1) applies to a road, that road is not a restricted road. The exemption to the need for repeater signs applies only to a restricted road, not a road with street lights and a 30mph limit (except in Scotland). Thus a road with a 30mph speed limit imposed on it by an order under section 84(1) must have repeater signs, whether it has street lights or not. The absence of repeater signs is a clear breach of Direction 10, so the speed limit cannot be enforced (prior to 31st January 2003).

there is also a useful site and forum at
http://www.pepipoo.com/

and
http://www.abd.org.uk/index.htm

basically it depends on the street light spacing!


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[LOJO]

Those are two excellent sites there Toby -

Here are some more great links for bookmarking which have helped me to reduce my tax burden :wink:
... also convinced me that current legislature is causing road deaths by spending money and effort on tax-raising inititiatives that do not reduce the road death rate... - see "Increased Road Deaths Figures Demolish Darling's Camera Claims" on the ABD site -

http://www.parkingticket.co.uk/


http://www.onethirdlie.org.uk/frames.htm


http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/

I am currently looking for a site that covers the loopholes around bus lanes!

Cheers, Lawrence


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[Simon W]

Thanks a lot. That's really useful stuff. I'll be out there measuring the streetlamp distance tomorrow. Will let you know if I get off.

Simon


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