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Potential 997.1 C2

jkhamler

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Hello all

I'm looking at a 997.1 3.6 C2 manual coupe on a fairly niche auction site. It would be a case of bidding sight unseen as the auction ends on Wednesday evening and the car is in Devon. It's a 2005 model with the larger IMS bearing (so says the seller although I can't confirm this). 76k miles, fantastic condition (cosmetically at least).

The current owner is a retired engineer in his 70s who has had the car for 2 years. He thinks it one of the best examples out there (although there might be some bias to that statement) - I've spoken to him and he seems like a genuine and trustworthy chap who bought the car from a specialist in the Midlands.

It has a full service history except for 4 years from 2014-2018 when he suspects it was SORN'd (the mileage did not increase during this time). It has has two services since but he has only put on 1,500 miles in the past 2 years.

I'm a bit concerned that the car has generally been sat still for too long and I am running the gauntlet of engine troubles compared to an example that has been used more regularly.

Just wondering what the general consensus would be. Obviously the supply of these cars is dwindling so I can't be too fussy, but neither do I want to take on something with a major mechanical risk.
 
I would not buy it without a PPI.
All the best
 
As above, I would want a PPI with a borescope.

MC
 
Buying a 997 Gen1 unseen without a PPI would be way too risky for me... is it cheap enough for a gamble? Do you feel lucky? :D
 
Thanks guys, that was my gut feeling too. This would be my first 911 and I don't have vast reserves of cash to spend the purchase price again on rebuilding the engine as well as fixing everything else that needs fixing after having been sat for so long.

The only other option would to be to post a low bid (thinking £17k max) that takes into consideration the potential work needed, but I don't think that's realistic as I doubt it would hit the reserve.
 
TonyC911 said:
Buying a 997 Gen1 unseen without a PPI would be way too risky for me... is it cheap enough for a gamble? Do you feel lucky? :D

No and No - I certainly don't want to rely on luck! :)
 
ask for engine number and it will confirm IMS bearing type
 
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Unseen for a C2 2005 with 76k miles? Personally for me that's £15k max. Just my personal opinion. I would be expecting to need a rebuild if not now, in the future. Simplest way is to get a PPI/Scope or leave well alone
 
cottlad said:
:hand:
Unseen for a C2 2005 with 76k miles? Personally for me that's £15k max. Just my personal opinion. I would be expecting to need a rebuild if not now, in the future. Simplest way is to get a PPI/Scope or leave well alone

Agreed on all counts, yet the auction reserve will be miles off, at least £20k. At that price I'm out, especially as there is 6% buyers premium to pay! (On the £15k allowance that would equate to a £14,100 bid and there's no chance that's going to bag it)
 
paul_mck said:

How much would you pay for an unseen Gen 1 997?
 
I wouldnt entertain buying one unseen unless it came with a comprehensive warranty. I did buy mine private without a PPI though so I roll the dice and take my chances but at least I got to see around it and drive it.

Putting a figure of 15k is counterproductive. The seller is never going to accept that and its not a true value of worth. Even a PPI is a snapshot in time and mechanical failure could be around the corner.

People here sure love to talk cars down. If the OP is interested maybe the seller would agree to a PPI before the auction ends but I see time is tight. One to think about if it doesnt meet reserve.
 
Nobody's talking a car down, they're just stating how much they'd be prepared to chance on a car they've never seen, especially knowing some of the generic issues the car may have.
 
Ill agree to disagree but I dont think throwing figures of £15k around is helping anyone. Either the buyer or the seller. And isnt a reflection of its 'worth'.
 
..so you bought yours privately without a PPI because you drove it?

I bought mine after driving it...drove lovely,immaculate condition,low miles,low owners,Porsche History...engine destroyed itself 4 months later!

...lowball offer or PPI...driving one isn't a substitute if ones is looking to minimise risk !
 

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