Porsche Approved Warranty

[Luddite]

From that which you type it seems that you should have an original (AGM) Porsche fitted battery, however it may be the same age as the car, and with low mileage perhaps equating to having seen irregular patterns of charge and discharge over it`s life. When I bought my car circa three years ago, it`s battery was original to the car as noted by the date code on one of the terminals. I left the car in the garage forgetting to connect the Ctek and after 8 days the battery failed to start the car.... Whereas had it been on the Ctek there would have been no issue, however if i.e. the car was left at an airport car park for a similar period of time, or any other similar scenario..? Yeah so budgeting for fitment and coding in of a new battery might be a wise move..?

Good luck in your choices.

 

[NDA]

Thanks.... I might ask how old the battery is, I have no idea.

 

[C320]

Congrats on your new 991 and as other have said an impressive car history too!

On your other query, I also use the CTEK charger. The battery condition would get picked up on the 111 point check anyway but no harm in asking how old it is. So if it's not up to holding charge they will tell you that it needs to be changed. I seem to recall mine had been previously replaced (it's a 2015 car) but it was borderline when I did my 111 point check but it passed and it's been fine since (no doubt helped by having it on the trickle charger when not in use!).

 

[Iain777]

I am about to buy my first Porsche. It is a 2014 car that has always been main dealer serviced. It is a private sale - not via a dealer.

It has been suggested by many that the Porsche Approved Warranty is something that is worth having and I was curious about the process involved, the costs and the age of the cars the warranty would cover. I will be having the 111 point Porsche check - but I assume this can't be used as a precursor to the warranty... but no idea.

This is my first foray into Porsche ownership and I know very little about what are probably more obvious questions - so do be gentle.

T8 provided a great response #2 - I recently took out a Porsche warranty for my 8-year old Gen I Macan Turbo. I had a major service completed by the OPC and 2-weeks later booked it for the 111-point check. The only reason for the delay was availability of slots. They were very thorough and only made 2 comments - the first noting the rubber tether for my petrol cap was missing (now replaced) and the second being that although my reversing camera was the same as used by Porsche, it wasn't on build sheet therefore not covered under the warranty. The 2-year warranty cost me £1,670 and they knocked £100 off the £250 fee for the 111-point check as I'd only just been in for a major service (I asked them to consider reducing the fee and they obliged). Picture attached of what the warranty covers and doesn't cover. I hope this helps. I fully intend to renew the warranty again when this one expires.
PS - worth also noting also that, as a member of TIPEC (The Independent Porsche Enthusiasts Club) in the UK, the OPC honoured the 10% discount on my major service with them - which paid for a few years worth of TIPEC membership.

 

[Luddite]

I have read much on battery performance longevity within this forum, and in the process learned quite a bit.... For me. knowing that my battery was at the time of purchasing my 991.1 C4S was circa 9 years old, and given it had just over 40k miles on the clock, there seemed to be a good chance that it may have irregular demands placed upon it which might affect it`s ability to retain a full charge over time just as it seems many irregularly used "Classics" seem to suffer...?

My guess is that regular Ctek use may mask the effects of a battery`s reduction to hold a full charge over time as per my example where after circa 8 days without attachment to the charger, my battery failed in it`s ability to start the car... I suspect had the charger been connected as normal, that the issue would not have arisen..?

I suspect an AGM battery lifespan may be circa 10 years... though no doubt many can appear to last longer if normally connected to float chargers, perhaps masking their probable drop off in ability to hold full battery capacity.. ?

I have also read where owners of classics have purchased jump start kit, whereby they can avoid replacing an inefficient or old battery by maintaining their jump start kit`s inbuilt battery at a state of charge whereby it can be carried in the vehicle to act as emergency backup...?

Just thinking in type...

 

[Goodfella]

Is it correct that if the car doesn’t already have a warranty, you need have owned the car for 90 days before Porsche will let you add one?

Ross

 

[NDA]

Is it correct that if the car doesn’t already have a warranty, you need have owned the car for 90 days before Porsche will let you add one?
Ross

Yes, that is correct. I am buying a 911 at the moment - and have paid for the 111 point check and the Porsche warranty. Because it is a private sale, the owner is doing it (I'm paying) and it can then be transferred. If it were from a dealer, it cannot be transferred.

 

[T8]

Is it correct that if the car doesn’t already have a warranty, you need have owned the car for 90 days before Porsche will let you add one?

Ross

That's the official rule, yes.

As I understand it it's to ensure that dealers have to stand by their consumer act obligations when selling a car.

 

[Goodfella]

Yes, that is correct. I am buying a 911 at the moment - and have paid for the 111 point check and the Porsche warranty. Because it is a private sale, the owner is doing it (I'm paying) and it can then be transferred. If it were from a dealer, it cannot be transferred.

That’s a great approach to getting it sorted. One to keep in mind should I end up buying private.

Ross

 

[Luddite]

It's difficult to pass judgement on an engine design from the 90's against the times we are in now, in the same way no one criticizes a 90/00's Ferrari for being expensive and unreliable

but always happy to debate this perspective for what is expected from a super sports car

That’s a great approach to getting it sorted. One to keep in mind should I end up buying private.

Ross

The above is what I engaged in with the private sellers agreement though the inspection raised issues that i would never have found unless able to get the car up on a ramp, even if then... and which put me off buying.

I then bought from the trade and informed the trader that as soon as allowed by my OPC I would be putting the 991 through the 111 point check with a view to getting it on to the Porsche extended warranty system....

In discussions with my OPC ,they informed me that they would be happy to carry out a complimentary check as a precursor to waiting until my car was eligible to be presented for the 111 point check... The complimentary checks picked up a couple of issues which the supplying dealership resolved.

Perhaps also worth noting, is that if you have paid out for a Porsche approved extended warranty, that warranty can be transferred to a buyer provided the sale is a private transaction, which may or may not ease an intended sale process ...?

I am unsure, but I think I read somewhere that there may be possibilities of cashing in some part of the remaining warranty if the car is sold on, though best check that out if thought to be important..

 

[NDA]

That’s a great approach to getting it sorted. One to keep in mind should I end up buying private.

Ross

I think the risks of buying privately - which are many - can be assuaged by paying for the 111 point check. I don't want to chip the price of the 911 I'm buying, it's priced well, is immaculate, FSH, all green passes on every MOT etc. However.... there's still a risk. Porsche main dealers are, I am told, rigorous with the check. If you're having the check, it's the prelude to the approved warranty scheme - and, again, if buying privately, it's almost like buying it from a dealer as you now have a warranty. It's added over £2k to my purchase, but the car is probably £4k lower than a dealer price in the first place. Maybe more.

The warranty goes with the car (not the owner), however it's easy to transfer (I am told) once you have the new V5.

 

[T8]

........... I am unsure, but I think I read somewhere that there may be possibilities of cashing in some part of the remaining warranty if the car is sold on, though best check that out if thought to be important..

This is the case (pro-rata refund is made) as long as no claim has been made on the warranty during that year.

 

[stuckmojo]

I'm looking at it from a similar place. A private car with OPC warranty needs to be in reasonable fettle and service tends to be up to date. Personal experience with the OPC warranty on my Macan has been great, which is why I'd look for that as peace of mind.

 

[Goodfella]

In discussions with my OPC ,they informed me that they would be happy to carry out a complimentary check as a precursor to waiting until my car was eligible to be presented for the 111 point check... The complimentary checks picked up a couple of issues which the supplying dealership resolved.

I had this discussion with my local OPC (Teesside) who weren't as accommodating as that. They said if i wanted them to undertake the check prior to purchase I would need to pay for it and then again prior to starting the new warranty.

I suppose if its a private sale its just having that conversation with the seller to see if they will get the warranty in place prior to sale.

Ross

 

[NDA]

I had this discussion with my local OPC (Teesside) who weren't as accommodating as that. They said if i wanted them to undertake the check prior to purchase I would need to pay for it and then again prior to starting the new warranty.

I suppose if its a private sale its just having that conversation with the seller to see if they will get the warranty in place prior to sale.

Ross

Yes - it’s not great if you buy from a dealer, want the 111 pre purchase and then the warranty. It means having two 111’s as they are only valid for 90 days.