Invictus Porsche - Whilst looking for Taycan stablemate

[TurboSandGT4]

i dont think the 718 GT4 is slow revving
It feels sharp like my GT3 but the gearing is longer so doesnt feel quite the same
You have a noise difference from 7k but for the price the engine is fab, yes its not fast as any turbo but the engine is much more characterful

 

[jonttt]

I couldn’t own a twin turbo 911 especially to compliment a Taycan, NA’s are much more fun and sound better (I’ll exclude the fact I have a Taycan Turbo which I always find ironic lol)

 

[jonttt]

I've amended the title on the thread, because the point has been well made that Porsche specialists don't just let anyone drive a high powered £50k car
and using a 987.1 as an example with half the power or a lot less value is not the point

Can you rename it again as “what porsche should I get to compliment a Taycan” is much more appealing

 

[Tengu10]

Now thats a thread worth exploring!

 

[jonttt]

One I’m currently living, the problem is the Taycan is so damn good at everything its hard for another car to get a look in

 

[Tengu10]

Tell me about it. If it had a fake engine sound so I pretend its an ICE I probably wouldnt be here!!

 

[plavix]

Can you rename it again as “what porsche should I get to compliment a Taycan” is much more appealing

You're forgetting EV converts are rare in these parts

 

[Harryblue]

Ironically it was a test drive that opened my eyes to the Taycan. Long story short is that the guys at the shop know me and he pretty much insisted that I try their blue PTS Taycan Turbo.

Its fast and very competent but I didn’t buy one and I can best sum it up by saying that I really like my pale blue Smeg refrigerator, it runs on electric and it’s really good, but I wouldn’t take it to the alps on holiday with me.

If you genuinely do think the Taycan is about perfect but you want noise and drama then you should try a 992 GT3, or perhaps a 991.2 GT3.
You might dislike the older stuff for the very same reasons that I like it.

 

[Harryblue]

By the way, back to the reason for the thread. In my opinion if you’re buying from these type of places then you need to be suitably knowledgeable to sort the wheat from the chaff, or pay a reputable expert to PPI it.
On a car that’s £50k or more I think paying a grand or so for a proper peace of mind inspection is a small price to pay.

 

[youngsyr]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but as someone who runs a business (non motoring related) I can just see it from his side, he might get a dozen such enquiries a day and only one is actually serious, so perhaps he made a mistake this time and tarred you with the same brush.

I wouldn't take it personally, he doesn't even know you.

To be honest I've been mostly disappointed with the response from most Porsche specialists I've engaged with over the last couple of years, pretty much all of them take ages to get back to you and their customer service is not good, even the really good names that others gush about, they're also dreadful at managing customer expectations, telling you work will be completed in two weeks and it takes five, that sort of thing.

It seems to be par for the course.

This struck a chord with me - booked my 996T in for a full suspension refresh and to investigate an electrical issue. Was told they couldn't fit it in for a month. OK, so I wait out the month and drop the car in the night before.

End of that week, I get a call - staff sickness, will update next week. Nothing that week. I email the following week: staff sickness, work has started, so car can't be driven, but won't be completed for "at least a couple of weeks".

So, currently looking at over a month without the car, despite booking it in with a month's notice and they haven't even made much progress with the work yet!

 

[plavix]

By the way, back to the reason for the thread. In my opinion if you’re buying from these type of places then you need to be suitably knowledgeable to sort the wheat from the chaff, or pay a reputable expert to PPI it.
On a car that’s £50k or more I think paying a grand or so for a proper peace of mind inspection is a small price to pay.

Totally agree with this, unless it's from the handful of reputable specialists. A good PPI would only be in the region of £300 to £400 last time I looked.

 

[Harryblue]

This struck a chord with me - booked my 996T in for a full suspension refresh and to investigate an electrical issue. Was told they couldn't fit it in for a month. OK, so I wait out the month and drop the car in the night before.

End of that week, I get a call - staff sickness, will update next week. Nothing that week. I email the following week: staff sickness, work has started, so car can't be driven, but won't be completed for "at least a couple of weeks".

So, currently looking at over a month without the car, despite booking it in with a month's notice and they haven't even made much progress with the work yet!

Many of these mechanics might be alright mechanics but they’re not very good at running a business.

Being a good mechanic is a proper skill, I always think that they don’t get the status they deserve, some of these guys could be anything, they’re intelligent people. But running a profitable business is at least as much of a skill, people think it’s easy but if it was then everyone would be doing it.
It does not follow that if you’re good at one then you’ll be good at the other.

In my experience most garages let themselves down by not managing themselves or their customers expectations properly.

My little fantasy is winning that crazy Euro Lottery £150m and starting up a not-for-profit Porsche garage with £50m of it and running it properly, I wouldn’t take any profit, my mechanics would be properly rewarded, we’d have a workshop that rivaled NASA and it would be run so people got their cars back on time. That last bit alone would make you the most successful Indy in the country.

 

[youngsyr]

I think a lot of the problem in recent years has been the exodus of EU workers during Covid. There simply aren't enough mechanics in the country to do the amount of work that's required.

Even for bog standard repair jobs on bog standard cars, you often have to book in one to two weeks in advance.

Plenty of outfits that will charge you top whack to change your oil and filters though - and then recommend that you have your tyres and brakes replaced too. Ask them to do anything more or on anything but a run of the mill car and they'll either flat out refuse or book you in weeks in the future.

 

[IMI A]

Having driven all the cars OP mention I think I’d be thinking about something completely different like a Mac 12c if you want turbo thrust on this budget. Super value compared to a 997 turbo and beautiful design. My favourite from Mcl other than the F1.

 

[jonttt]

Ironically it was a test drive that opened my eyes to the Taycan. Long story short is that the guys at the shop know me and he pretty much insisted that I try their blue PTS Taycan Turbo.

Its fast and very competent but I didn’t buy one and I can best sum it up by saying that I really like my pale blue Smeg refrigerator, it runs on electric and it’s really good, but I wouldn’t take it to the alps on holiday with me.

If you genuinely do think the Taycan is about perfect but you want noise and drama then you should try a 992 GT3, or perhaps a 991.2 GT3.
You might dislike the older stuff for the very same reasons that I like it.

Agree with this but a GT3 does not have enough road drama for me, it's too compromised, audi v10 audi R8 gen 2 pre face-lift is where my money is more likely to go to compliment a taycan turbo ;-)