Porsche 911 UK Enthusiasts Online Community Discussion Forum GB

Welcome to the @Porsche911UK website. Register a free account today to become a member! Sign up is quick and easy, then you can view, participate in topics and posts across the site that covers all things Porsche.

Already registered and looking to recovery your account, select 'login in' and then the 'forget your password' option.

I'll use Shell V-Power as usual

Suspect that's just the boggo 95 octane supermarket rubbish. The Tesco 99 octane is made by someone else altogether, so hopefully should not be an issue !

Jamie


Migration info. Legacy thread was 121229
 
Phew have just finshed my first and last tank of Tesco 99, fortunately it came without the flake and whatever else is causing the problem. Back to V-power!!

P.S. No discernable performance from Tesco99 v VPower.


Migration info. Legacy thread was 121232
 
That will probably be expensive for them - pretty much only use VPower at the moment - luckily.

Migration info. Legacy thread was 121236
 
As Jamie says...probably just limited to 'cooking' supermarket stuff. V Power should be fine......he says, hoping!

Migration info. Legacy thread was 121247
 
LONDON (Reuters) - The silicon contamination of petrol which thousands of motorists say damaged their vehicles has been traced to storage tanks at a Thames Estuary terminal, fuel supplier Harvest Energy said on Saturday.

Motorists across the country have said their vehicles broke down or suffered serious problems after leaving filling station forecourts.

"Testing has identified unusually high levels of silicon in four petrol storage tanks," said Harvest Energy after conducting tests at an oil terminal owned by Vopak at West Thurrock, Essex, which it shares with another supplier, Greenergy.

Harvest Energy said the contaminated fuel had not been spotted because testing of petrol at the terminal had not included a silicon check, though that test will now be introduced.

"Harvest Energy has now isolated the higher silicon fuel and can guarantee that no further supplies of high silicon unleaded petrol will be distributed from the West Thurrock terminal," the company said in a statement.

Vopak said in a statement late on Friday it had reviewed storage and handling operations at the terminal.

"Vopak can now conclude that the product as received from one of our customers contains a relatively high level of silicon," it said.

"This product has been located in four tanks which have been isolated"
"It added: "In line with normal industry practice, Vopak as a storage company is not responsible for the quality of products delivered into our facilities."

Trading standards officials discovered the silicon traces during tests on petrol after they began an inquiry following complaints from motorists.

Several motorists have blamed petrol they bought from supermarkets Tesco, Morrisons and Wal-Mart's Asda.

Consumer Direct, a government-funded advice service, said it had been contacted by more than 2,500 people concerned about possible fuel contamination.

"We're sympathetic to the plight of motorists who have been affected by this problem," said Harvest Energy managing director Franco Bussandri.

"We're working as closely as we can with our customers the retailers to address such concerns. We'd ask motorists who feel they may have been affected to contact their fuel retailer for advice."

Migration info. Legacy thread was 121811
 
It gets worse

Yesterday, garages said they warned Tesco about the issue as early as February 12, more than a fortnight before the news was made public on Wednesday.

Ray Holloway, of the Petrol Retailers' Association, said: 'Why did it wait so long when motorists risked having their cars damaged? Questions will have to be asked.

"When did it first know there was a problem and why didn't it warn motorists straight away?"

Tests by trading standards have found traces of silicon, in its liquid silicone form, in the petrol tanks of stricken cars.

The substance has been blamed for knocking out the oxygen filters in thousands of vehicles.

Yesterday, Morrisons suspended sales of unleaded at 41 sites in the South-East which received fuel from the terminal at the centre of investigations.

The supermarket said it was a 'precautionary measure', and denied any cover-up.

A Tesco spokesman also denied a cover-up, but admitted there had been 'sporadic' reports of contamination a few days before the weekend of February 24.

"There's no big conspiracy. We received isolated reports but did not know the extent of the problem until this Wednesday," he said.

The terminal under investigation, Vopack, refines and stores fuel for the oil company Greenergy, which supplies Tesco and Morrisons. Tesco has a 25 per cent stake in Greenergy.

Vopack, on the Thames, also stores fuel for Harvest Energy, which supplies Asda. Asda fuel has also been involved in the contamination scare.

The Daily Mail has already revealed that oil companies knew about the problem ten days ago.

Concerned staff at the Haddock's car dealership in Colchester had raised concerns with Greenergy about a rise in the number of burned-out oxygen filters in their cars. Silicon leaves a tell-tale residue in the tanks of stricken cars, which is effectively sand.

The substance is commonly used in diesel to prevent the fuel frothing up when drivers fill their tanks.

One possibility for the contamination is that the silicon was put mistakenly into a batch of unleaded fuel.

Another line of inquiry is whether traces of silicon from a batch of diesel may have remained in one of the storage tanks and mixed with unleaded.

Professor Malcolm Fox, of the University of Leeds, said: "You only need a few parts per million to cause a problem to the oxygen filters - say a coke-can full in a 35,000-litre fuel tanker, or a six-pack in a storage tank."

Trading standards officials expect the supermarkets to compensate motorists in full if there is evidence directly linking their fuel to the problem.

It says there are around 2,000 confirmed cases of affected cars, with the BBC reporting up to 4,000 emails from people who believe they have been affected.

One batch of oil is 12 million litres - meaning there could be enough of the contaminated fuel to fill around 400,000 cars.

Senior tax manager for accountants Grant Thornton, Maurice Fitzpatrick, said: "With between 4,000 and 10,000 cars affected - and repairs costing up to £1,000 - it would not be unreasonable to expect claims to whoever is responsible to be between £5 million and £10 million.

"But that is purely for the repair of the vehicles and does not get into the issue of lost time, effort and inconvenience."

Supermarkets are almost certain to seek redress from their Thameside fuel suppliers.

Meanwhile, motorists are having to wait up to ten days for repairs because of a shortage of the spare parts.

Renault, Peugeot, Mercedes Benz and Citroen have made special orders for more oxygen sensors to replace those apparently damaged by the fuel.

Ford and Volkswagen vehicles, which include Audi and Seat models, have largely escaped the problems. Honda and Porsche also reported little extra demand for the part.

Oil companies have also been accused of 'profiteering', by pushing up forecourt prices as drivers shun the supermarkets.

Migration info. Legacy thread was 121825
 
Greenergy are the guys who do the Tesco 99RON fuel....so do you still trust it?

Migration info. Legacy thread was 121830
 
I don't have to - Shell and Texaco are my nearest stations and I stick to Shell V-power whenever possible - even in europe.

The knock on effect on general trade for Tesco/Asda/Morrisons will be short term due to the short memories of the housewife shopper!

Migration info. Legacy thread was 121831
 
And to throw a spanner into the works....some Total stations have reported similar issues.

Migration info. Legacy thread was 121867
 
Previous poster said:
Quote: Originally posted by Stevo on 03 March 2007

The knock on effect on general trade for Tesco/Asda/Morrisons will be short term due to the short memories of the housewife shopper!
Will I be OK with diesel?

The Dirty girl is due a fill up...


Migration info. Legacy thread was 121870
 
Diesel usually has silicon in it so it will be totally unaffected.

Sounds like a numptie added silicon to 4 huge tanks of unleaded 95 octane while he was thinking about something completely different.

Migration info. Legacy thread was 121903
 

Forum statistics

Threads
124,574
Messages
1,446,448
Members
49,721
Latest member
Markyp
Back
Top