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Another 993 hunter

jimmy p

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Hi, I followed Mohitos's quest to find a good quality car with interest and he now appears to of found it. I'm also looking but finding it frustrating at finding one that meets my high expectations. I have looked at 4 so far that were for sale and 2 others that were at the same storage location as one that was for sale. The ones that were for sale have not quite been right. I would like a coupe, not too concerned on colour but would prefer the interior no to have a blue dash. Am I being unrealistic wanting to find one where all the rust problem areas have been treated as well as finding one in excellent mechanical condition. I know these cars are old now but there must be people out there who have really looked after their cars and then need to sell for whatever reason??? I have a reasonable budget for the right car but I get annoyed when the owner says its rust free then when you travel miles to view you find it isn't. Out of interest the 2 I saw that weren't for sale both appeared in good condition and rust free, typical!!

Out of interest, how much would a good quality re spray cost on a 993?
 
Welcome

You're not alone in wanting a tidy example.

There's lots of very sweet and well looked after cars out there. It's just that their owners are rather fond of them, and should they ever need to part, they command big numbers and sell rather quickly. Many don't even get to be advertised!

Be prepared to pay a lumpy sum and keep your eyes peeled in the usual places and a nice one will eventually surface. If it does be available to view and secure the car immediately.

The specialists such as JZM, Paragon et al seem to have a knack of unearthing nice examples. Keep in touch with them and you might secure one before it hits the general market.
 
Is Kimbos not in your area of interest :dont know:

Respray with glass out etc is £5k. My observation is if you find a solid car with good interior and engine/running gear and you get it for the right price but the paint is tatty to with a respray.

My 993 had original paint and whilst it was very good the standard of my 964 with a near full respray just doesn't compare. Not a scratch or swirl :thumb:
 
Zingari said:
Is Kimbos not in your area of interest :dont know:

Respray with glass out etc is £5k. My observation is if you find a solid car with good interior and engine/running gear and you get it for the right price but the paint is tatty to with a respray.

My 993 had original paint and whilst it was very good the standard of my 964 with a near full respray just doesn't compare. Not a scratch or swirl :thumb:


Kimbo's appears to be for sale then not I can't keep track, I've not seen it in the flesh but I might be wrong but thought it had blue dash??? It was a shame your old one was a tip as that seemed a steal at the price you sold it for!
 
I have to ask about the blue dash thing..

I really don't get why someone would put this so high on their list of priorities.
I can understand the usual "vario manual coupe, full service, low mileage, low owners, rust sorted" etc etc
But .. dash colour? .. And probably something that can be changed quite simply.
Should this be a deal breaker?
 
I've turned down two otherwise strong 4S' in the past because they had blue interiors.

Just isn't for everybody. Steering Wheel and Dash are the worst elements of it for me.
 
I feel for you. I spent many many months looking for the right car.

Plenty of wasted trips to view cars that were described as 'meticulously maintained' and 'immaculate', but were anything but.

My advice would be to cast your net wide - ingratiate yourself with the good specialists whilst keeping an eye on the forums and usual classified sites.

Don't rule out cars based on narrow spec either. I completely take your point on blue interiors. If it were the late '90's you could walk into an OPC and order your car of choice. Unfortunately your choices are limited to the cars available now and it's better to find a great car than a poor car with a black dash.

It's a lesson I learnt after 18 months of serious looking, probably 16 of those limiting myself to a WB car. In the end I bought a NB, but best of breed, and I couldn't be happier.

Loads of good advice and decent folk on here who will help with your quest.

Good luck.
 
dommorton said:
I've turned down two otherwise strong 4S' in the past because they had blue interiors.

Just isn't for everybody. Steering Wheel and Dash are the worst elements of it for me.
Fair enough D , I guess I'm just trying to understand what makes a blue dash so undesirable ..
I just don't get it!
 
ballcock said:
I guess I'm just trying to understand what makes a blue dash so undesirable ..

I'd say it's the blueness ;)
 
It's an interesting one!

Personally, I wouldn't want a blue dash either, but as the decent cars become ever more rare, my first thought was like Ballcock's, ie) would or should it be a deal breaker?

I appreciate that the chassis legs, the windscreen scuttle and the door check straps are all things that should have been done, but if they haven't been you would just factor that in to the price that you offered.

I suppose the difference with an interior colour is that you are changing the "original spec" as opposed to simply maintaining the car at its optimum level.

For that reason, I would rather find a black interior, but as time moves on and the good cars become rarer, I suspect that the interior colour will become just another "item" that can be changed.

I would rather have Kim's car with a blue interior (if it has one), than most of the others on offer, even if they had black.

And I also suspect that blue goes so well with Polar Silver, that after living with it for a few weeks, I would probably change my mind and end up loving it, as I did with a Mercedes interior a few years ago.

:thumb:
 
The dash colour wouldn't be a deal breaker but I would factor in the cost of changing it over to black.

I would rather have a nice car and just have to swap the interior than a black interior and have to spend money sorting the mechanical aspects.
 
Yes the re C2 I had was an original gem and the chap I bought it off paid the price however from Paragon.

A Tip is not to everyones taste and I priced accordingly with what I thought was fair in the market at the time. Plus I never moved on the price and for me I had 3yrs of cost free motoring which I thought was a good deal. No surprise though with it selling in 24hrs :wink: If I'd wanted to make money I would have bought a 964 RS 4yrs ago. But then again hindsight is a wonderful thing :nooo:

Personally I dont like the blue dash, especially if it has a blue wheel, so would try to avoid. However if I found the car ticked all my boxes I'd go for it - like I did when I eventually gave in to buy a fully restored 964 @ £30k at JZM, which was c£6-£8k over market at the time, only to find someone bought it the day before. They 'lurk' on here I believe :hand:
 
Well and good saying the blue can be swapped out, but come resale time 993 buyers generally like things to be as per original.

Also don't under estimate the price black trim parts change hands for. As most of us know the eBay legend Nessy has made a cheeky sum from selling died to black parts.
 
It's interesting hearing the negative views on here regarding blue dashes.

I like it, it lifts the interior a little. It's not that much different to black really.

If anything, it's the marble hardback seats and carpet in mine that do my head in. The carpet in particular, I just cannot get it properly clean!

Perhaps I should dye it blue? :?: :grin:
 
This is where the old argument about low mileage goes out the window.

Mines Midnight Blue, coupe, manual but with grey and black dash (I'm not keen on the blue interior either) grey sports seats and blue carpets

BUT its done now 121K miles ......

BUT it was one of the first batch of 12 registered by Porsche in RHD in the UK ..... and has (including myself) only 3 owners from new other than PorscheUK ...... and has full OPC from the same dealer service history. Even better, the last owner kept her for 14 years and only sold when she hit 75.

So its a nice colour, with nice colour interior, few owners, fully tracable history .......... yet its done over the 100K mark.

:?: Yup, I'm guessing that a low mileage manual with non blue interior, tracable history, no rot, low owners, is a rare beasty indeed.

Oh and its had the scuttle done front (and possibly back).
 

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