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My 930 thread

Harryblue

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I've posted about it before, but I have some pictures now so I thought I'd start documenting my journey with it.

As posted before, I wanted a Guards Red 930 since 1989, I had a poster of one on my wall and it was a schoolboy dream that I thought would be forever unattainable.
The poster was a white one but I wanted Guards Red. Over the years I kept having a tentative look at them, I've had 911s but not an older one like the 930, and earlier this year I decided it was probably now or never.

Over the months I was looking there were a few for sale but only two that looked to be worth buying if I wanted a good one. I wanted one with the G50 box, so it had to be a 1989. I have a mate that is a Porsche guy and he helped me pick the right one, even though he was pretty insistent that I should be buying a 993 Turbo instead. The one I bought had been owned by a guy for 33yrs, then a couple of short term owners including a YouTube guy who owned it for about a year each, and then me. I think the previous two guys had owned it as a bucket list car with no intentions of long term ownership, so neither had done anything apart from basic servicing.
It was pretty much all original, but that meant it needed TLC to really future proof it, and on the good side like my mate said, at least we could see no one had messed about with it, most of it was original factory parts.

I paid fairly high end money for the one I wanted, it was a fully MOT'd decent original car, but they're all old and they all need work, so I immediately put it into my mates place to make it actually mint, instead of someone else's version of mint. I should get it back before Christmas and I'll try and make it to a NW event if there is one over the Christmas break whilst I'm in the UK.

Here it is sat outside MLR Porsche in SOT, Marc Clowes (ex-Ninemeister founder) is the guy doing the work.

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The instructions from me were "Imagine it's your own car that you're going to keep forever, and do whatever it needs", so I'm looking at a fairly hefty bill because aside from all hoses and lines (that are five grand plus just for the parts) it's having KW suspension, a full dry-ice clean, engine metalwork painted and detailed, fully set up, etc, etc.

I got a walk around video a couple of weeks later pointing out a lot of the things needed to make it mint, for example the sills are ok, it passed an MOT but they're not great, so it's having two new sills, each side is a grand just for the panel, then they need to be painted.
The next picture I got was the engine out...

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And then more recently some before and after shots of the dry ice cleaning, it had a lot of road muck on it underneath and it still doesn't look perfect because they're obviously not new parts, but it looks better.


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It has the usual corrosion around the bottom of the windscreen, so that needs attention and general stuff like that, plus all the new hoses, lines and parts that mean it's hopefully as reliable as it can be.
It's having a proper original 1980s Gemballa rear spoiler fitted that has been on a shelf for a long time, but other than that (and the KW suspension) it will be stock.

As I said, it's a dream come true and I want it to be perfect, so I asked about a bare metal respray and a full engine teardown but the lads said it really doesn't need it, so no point throwing money away for nothing.

I'll keep updating a bit like a blog and hopefully I'll get to collect it before Christmas all finished, painted and looking lovely, then I can hopefully find a couple of dry days where I can practice not going through hedgerows backwards.
 
I'll be watching this thread with interest as it's basically the same car as mine, bar 100cc, a turbo and tie rod ends from what I understand. The dry ice blasting was a real confirmation of what condition my car was in. I'd have to go back through my thread, but from memory, it removed 5kg of muck from the car.
A guards red 930 us a thing of beauty.
 
excellent effort!!!!!!!! would love this for mine but the costs are prohibitive!!!
 
I'll be watching this thread with interest as it's basically the same car as mine, bar 100cc, a turbo and tie rod ends from what I understand. The dry ice blasting was a real confirmation of what condition my car was in. I'd have to go back through my thread, but from memory, it removed 5kg of muck from the car.
A guards red 930 us a thing of beauty.

I considered an M491 kitted car, basically a Turbo in almost every way except the Turbo, they’re apparently nicer to drive, arguably a better road car and they’ve got all the looks, but in most cases they’re just as expensive to run these days because aside from the Turbo and the asking price everything else is the same price, your sills are going to be the same price as mine.
In the real world a nice M491 turbo look 3.2 Carerra would have probably been a better buy, but the dream was a 930.

I foresee that this car is going to cost me a lot to keep, which is ok for now, but once I've retired and turned the income tap off then it might end up having to be sold, hopefully when they've all gone up to fine art prices :D
 
Harry, watching this with interest ... do you reckon she'll make it to a Cheshire meet b4 Xmas..? I'd love to see her in the flesh as i too had a 930 turbo poster on my wall along with the Countach and Ferrari 512 BBi Boxer.

I'm seeing many posts regarding MLR and really positive regard for them and as i live in the Stoke area, am thinking about them being my go-too indie.

Good luck with the 930.

Si.
 
Harry, watching this with interest ... do you reckon she'll make it to a Cheshire meet b4 Xmas..? I'd love to see her in the flesh as i too had a 930 turbo poster on my wall along with the Countach and Ferrari 512 BBi Boxer.

I'm seeing many posts regarding MLR and really positive regard for them and as i live in the Stoke area, am thinking about them being my go-too indie.

Good luck with the 930.

Si.

I doubt I'll get to a meet before Xmas, I'll only be in the UK for a couple of weeks, I'm hoping to pick it up the last weekend before Christmas and drive it as much as possible whilst I'm back, then I'll probably ship it to Dubai so I can get a few months driving in over winter. I'm in a few clubs and I always seem to miss meetings by one or two days either side, I join up and pay my subs then never get to a meeting :D

I'm sure the boys won't mind if you call by and have a chat, you'll see the 930 on the ramp if it's not in the spray shop, I've known Marc a long time and his two sons that run the business are good lads. I'm obviously going to recommend them and for what it's worth other well known Indys sometimes farm out work to them so if you take your car elsewhere it might end up at MLR anyway.
I'm always cautious with recommendations because you can't please all of the people all of the time, but they'll do for me.

They're also building a 996 RS for me, but that hasn't properly started yet so there is nothing to see.
 
Spoke to the chaps last night and they promised to have it ready for me to use by mid-December, but some of the bodywork will have to wait until probably mid to late 2025, they simply don't have to time to get it done and it's not fair to expect to jump the queue when other people have been waiting longer.

So mechanically it should be tip-top and it will look great from a few feet away, the Gemballa spoiler will be done, new sills on and anything obvious done, the KW suspension, plus pretty much every hose, line and connection replaced for new OEM stuff (that stuff is outrageously expensive).
Basically it should be mechanically spot-on, but some of the time consuming bodywork, like a new B-pillar on the passenger side and some bits that got revealed after the dry ice cleaning will have to wait.
It's nothing structural or serious and I could probably use it for years as it is, but I'll still get it done asap when they have a slot for me - which should hopefully coincide with my 996 build being finished.

I'll drive it while I'm in the UK and decide whether to ship it to Dubai, there is a very obvious temptation to put it in a carcoon and have it as a garage queen and occasional Sunday morning driver and/or show car for just when I'm in the UK. If I bring it to Dubai then I'll daily drive it and that's probably not sensible or in the best interests of the car and it's future, but on the other hand six months over here and another 5,000 miles or so on it probably isn't going to hurt anything except my wallet in shipping/air freight costs.

I can't wait to get back in it now, I should have three weeks over the Christmas break to get out and have fun, I asked them to seal it underneath against the weather so I can get out in it even if it's a bit wet and crappy.
 
The tyres on it are P Zeros and they’re five years old. The 930 is notoriously a handful on bad tyres and I don’t know how these have been looked after or what condition they’re in structurally, it’s sat around for most of those five years.

I’ve asked them to put on four new Michelin PS4.
Anyone have any better suggestions?
 
I second PS5's.............really impressed on 18" split rims.
 
I found a picture of a Gemballa spoiler and this is the difference between that and the standard one that is currently on mine.
I think the Gemballa one looks better, some purists might disagree, although it shouldn't negatively affect the value because it is a genuine 1980's Gemballa product, which would be a challenge to find/buy today.

I don't know what it would fetch in a sale, I got it from my mate, he'd had it on his shelf for a long time waiting for the right car.

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Sorry H, not with you on the spoiler, however, it's your car but it looks a Dimma 205CTI to me in that picture mate :(

Saying that though... wouldn't it be a crappy world if we all liked the same stuff.

Perhaps it looks so different as it's on a cab and not the coupe.
 
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I’d be buzzing with a 205 Dimma! :D

But yeah I think it’s because that picture is a cab. And I’ve never seen the Gemballa spoiler on the car, so I’m assuming it fits like that. I won’t know for sure until I turn up and collect it, but it’s not a big job to put the old one back if I don’t like it.

I felt like it would have been a missed opportunity not to put a genuine 80s Gemballa rear on it.
 
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