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996 C4S Hartech 3.9 - A diary

So, I drove down to Walsall this morning from Edinburgh. Gave the M140i a last good go over the Borders to Moffat on some clear A/B roads. Was a bit of snow about but the going was good for an appropriate send off.

Got to Marshall’s at about 1600 and Kenny was really helpful with the cars, the sale details and me generally getting distracted by all of their interesting stock, and by me not having a clue about how CarPlay works. If you are looking for a C4s or a 997 C4 check out their stock, they are a proper outfit and a really decent group of people.

So, the car. Well what can I say, I pootled back to the M6 toll and it was just, you know, an ordinary car. Did normal car stuff and did it boringly well. If I wasn’t so overwhelmed and excited to be sat in a Porsche that’s mine, I would have been, well, nonplussed in a really impressed way? 😂

Popped on to the M6 Toll and just took it steady, cruised between 60-70 as traffic was heavy and just got to know it and what all the buttons did. As we got up to the North West I had calmed down a bit and had started to relax into the driving and the car and thinking about how it drove. I had also just about got used to CarPlay.

This CarPlay idiocy made me realise how elegantly simple the controls in the 996 are. The wheel is a great size, just right. The thickness of the wheel is wonderfully thin. The ancillary controls are intuitively where they should be on a car. It’s so simple, but that’s so hard to do. It like the difference between your local new hyped “small plates” restaurant and a place that’s low key had a star for 25yrs. They both create fantastic meals, one just has 25yrs of consistent improvement and learning behind it and is now, scintillatingly simple and satisfying. Through these mental ramblings , I really stared to connect with the car.

I was cruising along thinking how much of a shame it is that we have automatic everything on cars now. It’s great tech and has its place, but somehow it’s taken something away from the driving experience, for me anyway. Anyway more thoughts on that in time I’m sure.

In short, through some small commutingy bits and some motorway cruising, over a combined 110ish miles, I got to know the car and, well, god it’s good.

The engine is, as you would expect, brilliant. Having driven a turbo B58 down, I could compare the 3.9 M96 to it quite accurately on the motorway. Yes the turbo B58 gives a massive slug of torque and you can sit in 6th and just poke it around like an auto over 2500rpm , but the torque of the 3.9 is so so so much better. It ticks over around town and then it just keeps coming from low down all the way up, in all the gears. I haven’t even attempted to uncork it and have just driven it “normally” and I am really taken with it. I am looking forwards to some fast Borders A roads tomorrow, to sensibly have a little bit more of a poke, when I think it’s going to show me what the point and shoot, brake, point and shoot, brake Bimmer was really missing.

The rest of the car feels tight and new and there is nothing to really comment on so far. But more thoughts tomorrow when I get off the motorways.

Nice Suprises

- The lacquer spots really are tiny and have been touched in already. So less to worry about there
- Stone chips are minor and the one spot of surface rust on the arch is also, tiny.
- generally the interior is in superb condition even more so for the mileage.
- The Hartech list of works in the last 13k miles is extensive (photo at bottom)
- The sound system and head unit are really good and the hands free is wired in very subtly, even with a power source for a dashcam
- The paint really is a bit daft and cannot make its mind up 😂

Bits that need work

- The sunroof works, but the ‘front’ button of the three isn’t working so I have to “shimmy” it into place with the other two buttons. It’s not quite perfectly flush either but appears to seal. But we will see tomorrow morning!
- the trim panel for the sunroof needs to be re fixed.

Research bits

It seems to have been serviced and looked after at Reading but also Chiswick OPC’s and is on Park Lane plates, which is also mentioned in the paperwork. So its history is a bit opaque. The service history is also all marked as ‘replacement’ with some services down south in early 00’s, then all of the Hartech stuff from 2021 onwards. But all MOTs were done at Reading OPC and mileage is consistent. So some fun digging to do there!

Codes

Decoded it

C16
XSC - seat crests
288 - H lamp washers
425 - R wiper
446 - coloured crest wheel centres
567 - top tinted windscreen
601 - Xenon H lights
635 - Arse beepers
650 - Sun/Moon Roof
662 - PCM
09991 - exclusive manufacture

That’s probably enough for tonight. Hartech works lidyno read out and a car park shot attached below

Now, to sleep 😴
Congratulations on your purchase. Really enjoyed your write up on the drive back and completely can relate to your experience regarding the interior of the car. The steering wheel is a thing of beauty, wonderfully slim and every control perfectly placed.
 
The Hartech stuff is your main guarantee, they wouldn’t let the car go with a major issue.

I dislike how non-engineering folk regurgitate myths about how their way is the only way but Hartech are very good and it’s a very good solution and they take their reputation seriously, so if they’ve put it through their upgrade process then you’ve got a good car.

It looks like a keeper to me, get into it and enjoy. I stand by my comments that there is still nothing in the water-cooled range that feels as nimble and raw as a decent 996, I hate cliches but I think it was the last 911 that will ever give you that feeling.
Oh absolutely. The history prior to Hartech is purely for interest and some background colour.

From my reading and research the work Hartech do really does shine through and their reputation is very much deserved as you say. It’s why this car appealed so much, as it’s had that care and technical expertise poured into it.

Day two of learning it practically, is about to begin 🤗
 
That capacity increase fills a gap in the lower rev range (2500rpm - 4000rpm) the original engine didn't have. If you drive a standard car in the future, you'll know what I mean.

Quality purchase.
It certainly seems to so far!

Cheers Alex
 
In short, It’s brilliant.

It’s fantastically engaging at all speeds without being unusable or silly. It’s a whippet on the back roads and It’s very docile and very easy to drive in town. Everything is nice and tight inside and out (Apart from the sunroof….) even after its first run through Edinburghs potholes and schlippy cobbbleszz.

In my undereducated and briefly collated opinion, gears 2-4 gears are for driving on the As and Bs

Gear 5-6 have great punch but are more solid cruising gears

Front end grips very hard and turn in is sweet as a nut. I didn’t push it on the Borders roads but you can tell it wants to go and is supremely capable on all surface types.

Did have an open motorway in Cumbria so made sure 6th worked fully.

Two observations from this morning.

- visibility is amazing while driving. You can see all 4 corners
- suspension is excellent. Whatever it is!
- I went through a tiny ford, therefore it is a true 4x4

Right now to fiddle with the sunroof :)
 
I remember driving mine home when I collected it 11 years ago. Just felt so planted and connected to the tarmac like nothing else I'd driven. They truly are an amazing car, even in any standard format. Most who've driven an AWD say the front end feels much better due to the extra weight of the running gear up front, enabling it to turn into corners better.

You've bought the right car!!!
 
In short, It’s brilliant.

It’s fantastically engaging at all speeds without being unusable or silly. It’s a whippet on the back roads and It’s very docile and very easy to drive in town. Everything is nice and tight inside and out (Apart from the sunroof….) even after its first run through Edinburghs potholes and schlippy cobbbleszz.

In my undereducated and briefly collated opinion, gears 2-4 gears are for driving on the As and Bs

Gear 5-6 have great punch but are more solid cruising gears

Front end grips very hard and turn in is sweet as a nut. I didn’t push it on the Borders roads but you can tell it wants to go and is supremely capable on all surface types.

Did have an open motorway in Cumbria so made sure 6th worked fully.

Two observations from this morning.

- visibility is amazing while driving. You can see all 4 corners
- suspension is excellent. Whatever it is!
- I went through a tiny ford, therefore it is a true 4x4

Right now to fiddle with the sunroof :)
Fantastic to hear how tight it drives - the mileage is irrelevant with (a) a Hartech rebuild, (b) suspension refresh (which it seems it's had!) and (c) an interior that's still in good nick.

What a brilliant car - you've done really well!
 
I remember driving mine home when I collected it 11 years ago. Just felt so planted and connected to the tarmac like nothing else I'd driven. They truly are an amazing car, even in any standard format. Most who've driven an AWD say the front end feels much better due to the extra weight of the running gear up front, enabling it to turn into corners better.

You've bought the right car!!!
In the 300miles or so I have driven my one, I agree!
 
Fantastic to hear how tight it drives - the mileage is irrelevant with (a) a Hartech rebuild, (b) suspension refresh (which it seems it's had!) and (c) an interior that's still in good nick.

What a brilliant car - you've done really well!
Cheers it feels like it

Got hockey later so it will get its first taste of some horrible speed bumps on the way to the pitches.IMG_0604.jpegIMG_0605.jpeg

About that interior…

Need to research if this can be fettled back into shape and how it clips back in to the mechanism itself.
 
Congrats on the purchase! It sounds like you've had fun on the way home, the North Pennines are my usual driving roads but we'll venture up into the borders sometimes. You're in a great place for general hooning but I'm sure you already know that, borders to the South, Cairngorms to the North!

Keep the thread going, it's always interesting to see how people get on with their cars!
 
Congrats on the purchase! It sounds like you've had fun on the way home, the North Pennines are my usual driving roads but we'll venture up into the borders sometimes. You're in a great place for general hooning but I'm sure you already know that, borders to the South, Cairngorms to the North!

Keep the thread going, it's always interesting to see how people get on with their cars!
Thank you!

Yeah I love the roads above and below Edinburgh for driving and cycling

There are so many and such variety that everyone can play.

The thread will keep going as the car is now our car, so by default, stuff is going to happen and I’ll put the good, bad, ugly and mundane in here!
 
Quick question

Does this kit include all you need to fit the roof bars?

I have found trying to work the roof bars/racks out a total nightmare 😂

Or am I up the wrong tree with this kit and is there a more suitable/forum recommended set of roof bars?
 
I looked into the roof bar malarkey back when I got my 997, and I bought the OE Porsche bars, not because I don't like Thule or I didn't think they'd fit, but because the OE are flush fit, so they're even in height front to back - the Thule kit would require a box to point skywards at the front, if you see what I mean. That may not be an issue if you only want to fit bikes, but we run the rails for the Thule roof box (below) and Thule ski racks and if they're not horizontal to the ground, I'd go nuts. There a couple of guys on YouTube who have come to the same conclusion. Maybe you'll get lucky and find a 2nd hand set.

In the meantime, congratulations on a spectacular purchase!
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