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LMR
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:26 pm    Post subject: Cobalt Blue C2 Reply with quote

Hello all

I have been a keen viewer of posts for the last 18 months or so, but really got hooked by Chief and the Red Baron. I have met the man himself as I have a unit near where the 'Baron was sprayed.

I have had my car since 2009. For the first couple of years it was my daily driver. A change of job and an increased commute required a new daily driver, thus allowing me to keep my 964 as a fun vehicle.

I am a big fan of cars being used. Whilst being a daily driver it saw rain, ice and snow (and is still the best car I have ever driven in the white stuff). It has been to plenty of places, a couple of track days and a memorable week in Germany, visiting the museum in Stuttgart and a few laps around the Nurburgring.

Of course, daily use has left the odd scar. Also I had began to notice the odd bit of wear. The standing joke with mates at my unit is I only took the car off the road to change the driveshaft boots........ About a year ago I decided to tackle a few jobs but with a possibility of some paintwork. That plan has evolved into a full respray.

Over the next few weeks I will catch up on the work I have done so far. Given how much I have enjoyed reading other posts, and how much I have learnt from others, I hope you enjoy my posts.

Now, if I could work out how to upload photos, I will share some Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with the (ongoing) project, I look forward to seeing updates.

I always use photobucket to load my photos as it's easy, just upload to there and post the link into the thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome chum Thumb Looking forward to the updates. Best if you use a hosting site like photobucket to upload pics Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil,
About blood time mate....
That car deserves a make over. I'll look forward to seeing your progress.
I will drop in and say "Hi" on Saturday if you are about.
Good to see you posting on here at last Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Phil,

Congrats on your project, I'll look forward to sseing it develop Thumb

The traction on a 911 is brilliant in the snow but I wouldn't get too carried away with it, I once came backwards down a hill on the way to skiing Rolling Eyes

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

welcome Thumb looking forward to some photos , i reduce the photo size down to 72 resolution in Photoshop first . Go to "Choose file" see below when making your post , good luck Smile
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PeterS
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome

Chief has told me about you.

Good to have another local 964, even though it's not in the best blue Smile

We have. midlands Meet last Thirsday of the month in Meriden.

It would be good to see you come along.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chief

Yes, I am around on Saturday. Mark (who sprayed your car) should be around as well

i will get the kettle on

Phil
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, a quick peek at my car. Photo was taken at Anglesey.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nearly there. Use the URL link on PB.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, hopefully the next one works - computers, think I need to get my daughter to sort this aspect.....!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overall the car didn't look to bad, but getting up close it was beginning to show a few bubbles



 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More bubbles and scratches







With the rear quarter being the worse

 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you will see from the photos, pretty much every panel at the back of the car needed some work. After much discussion over lots of cups of tea, I decided that rather than go for repairing a few panels and touch in the paint, it was better to go for a repaint.

It is at this point that you will realise what I lucky chap I am. The conversations about repairs and paint were with the very man who painted Chief's Red Baron. I saw first hand his car being prepared and painted. I will not be mimicking the exquisite detail achieved on Red Baron, but am aiming for a good standard.

So, stripping a 964, how hard can that be? I started (for no real reason) at the back of the car. The rear bumper is an "interesting" arrangement. Removal isn't easy, if you are going to attempt this yourself my advice would be take your time, be methodical, and used plenty of penetration oil on fittings. Some of them haven't been disturbed for over 20 years. Photos were a bit limited as I had my hands full.

Rather rusty support bracket - like other supports on my car this could be crushed between my fingers, and I am no hercules....



Lots of crud on the floor



The support bracket above the catalytic converter was a complete pig to get off. The bolt holding the bracket to the bumper support was very corroded and wouldn't shift. I ended up cutting the support bracket. That wasn't too difficult as half of it dissolved in my hand. The photo below is pretty rubbish, but the shiny silver at the top of the support tube was pretty much all that was keeping the bumper support and bumper from dragging along the ground.



And the bracket as it final came off the car. One of the bolts holding this onto the car sheared, which I will address later.



My parts bill is getting longer........javascript:emoticon('Surprised')
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brings back painfull memories, crack on will all be worth the effort I had similar problems with the crush tube the rear support bar was corroded ended up getting some new brackets fabricated.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks all to familiar, same sort of rust leve that pushed me down the respray path. It'll be great when it's finished. thumbsup
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:12 pm    Post subject: Cobalt Blue C2 Reply with quote

Hi Phil
Mine has the exact same rot spot on the NSR bumper mount. OSR covered in oil fro the leaks so looks in good condition Surprised Similar bubbling to investigate inside engine bay lip?
Good luck with the bodywork.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter

I will update the photos on the bodywork condition in the next few days.

Carrying on with the rear bumper, next couple of photos reveal the true pain of removal.





After lots of angle grinder action, a blow torch, vice grips and a bit of swearing, I have got the bolts out and the brackets are intact.

As I will be getting this powder coated, next task was to remove the plastic support pieces.



I started by trying to drill out the rivets. I knew I had to be careful as the plastic pieces seem not to be available from Porsche. Whatever material is used in those rivets, it is blooming hard and it quickly broke a couple of drills. Using a little lateral thinking, I found that grinding the tops of the rivets with a power file made life a lot easier......



After a centre punch, lots of careful drilling, I now have another component ready for powder coating.



I had a very useful visitor turn up today, great for motivation to see a car in one piece!



More horrors will be revealed in the next instalment
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For clarity, horrors referring to my car, not the Red Baron!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Interesting stuff , good luck with the work , im hooked Thumb
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