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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a 15min session at the NBR GP circuit about a month ago and there was a little understeer. I am going to refit the front 7mm spacers and see if the wider front track helps out on this front at the weekend. Is anyone else up at the Nurburgring this weekend, or Sunday to be more specific? Would be good to meet up Thumb

Here is a little video of the previous outing warts an all Grin

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is with great regret that I have to sell my car. If you are a beard or purist collector, please step away now. If on the other hand, the most developed and performance orientated 911RS experience is what floats your boat then this might be an opportunity that you will not likely see again. The car really is unique and has a host of improvements that total over £100,000 (Excluding car). The engine and gearbox are practically new having covered only 2885miles since being upgraded. The car is available for any inspection (I have access to ramps). An OPC or your own Mechanic/Inspector/Specialist are more than welcome to view/test. I have just collected the car today from Teichmann Racing where it was serviced. I also requested a RevRange read-out and there are no changes since when I purchased the car. I have now dropped the car off at Zens GmbH to be prepared for sale. The car is in outstanding condition as per the pictures earlier in the thread and below.

To arrange a viewing and discuss the car in more detail, the easiest way would be to fly from London-Stansted to Frankfurt-Hahn via Ryanair for about £20. I will then collect and provide free hotel accommodation if required.

There are currently Four Gen I 997GT3RS’s for sale on Pistonheads:
Green LHD 2007 for €330,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-997/porsche-gt3rs-997-mki/4327193
Green 2008 for £250,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-997/porsche-911--997-gt3-rs/4198254
Orange 2008 for £199,995
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-997/997-gen-1-gt3rs-delivery-mileage-dry-stored-collectors-car/4300616
Silver 2007 for £149,995
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-997/porsche-997-gt3-rs-mk1-silver--orange/4001271

Prices in Germany are just as sporadic and as such it really is difficult to put a price on this car. The car will sell itself and I feel £130,000 ONO would be incredibly good value judging by current market prices (I was offered £107,000 for the car last year but I turned this offer down as I had no intention of selling at the time).

I have 100’s of photos and documents relating to the car available upon request. If you require any further info please contact me by PM or phone: 0044 743 8642 996.
Here are a few pics:





Really sorry to have to do this guys as this car is incredible Sad Any input much appreciated.

Tel: Richard 0743 8642 996
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Senoj
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a shame you have to sell it soon. As you say hard to value but the new owner will know how much they feel comfy with Laughing

Car looks a ton of fun.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that, I've been following this thread for ideas and inspiration...

Please create an advert (it's free) using this link:

http://911uk.com/ads_create.php

You'll get more viewing hits than having it buried in your thread.

Best of luck with the sale.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for the kind words guys Thumb
To be honest Stuart, I'm not sure I want any more exposure. It will kill me to sell this car but the Mrs doesn't quite share my fascination of all things Mezger. I can tell her it is for sale and hopefully, with it being hidden away in a thread nobody reads, I will get to keep it for longer Wink
Senoj, the car is without doubt the most complete, incredible driving machine I will ever experience. There has never been a moment where I thought any part of it needed to be improved (ground clearance aside).
There are a few more pics here:
https://www.facebook.com/richard.beaumont.58367/media_set?set=a.10152800389466054.1073741838.669191053&type=3&pnref=story
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuart wrote:
Sorry to hear that, I've been following this thread for ideas and inspiration...

Please create an advert (it's free) using this link:

http://911uk.com/ads_create.php

You'll get more viewing hits than having it buried in your thread.

Best of luck with the sale.

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Many thanks for the advice Stuart, I now have a very simple ad up linking to here for the finer details Wink


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still not a single person actually come to see the car. Someone was coming from France to buy the car this Friday but has just told me he bought a 997.2GT3RS yesterday.
Means I get to do a little more of this for the foreseeable future Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just reviewed all the Gen1 RS's currently for sale on PH (8 currently) and prices are as follows:

£120k
£150K
£152.5K
3x £160K
£250K
£POA


Still seems to be quite a spread of prices and ignoring the 2 extremes it appears about £155k is the average. Anyone have any insider knowledge that would be helpful in establishing a price for my car?
In the meantime and as a special winter offer to 911UK members, I will knock something off my advertised price and will buy new front discs and front CUP splitter for the lucky buyer Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its very tough to value as it really needs the right buyer, i dont think you can compare it too easily to others on the market.

125 to the right buyer seems value but your market is pretty narrow. If you want to sell it fast then its going to have to look like enough of a steal for someone who may not need it to take a punt. If you dont then just sit tight where you are and wait for the early spring to get people motivated.
You were that buyer once, so what motivated you to buy is probaly the same for the next potential owner.

Thats my take on it..
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further evidence to never get married! Beautiful car.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks and sounds like a cracking car; could be a real bargain for someone.

Re selling, I think your lack of interest stems from the fact that it is not a standard car anymore. Modified cars are nearly always harder to sell and you never get back anything like what you put into them. It doesn't matter how subtle or 'good' the mods/improvements are, its been changed from the original factory spec and unfortunately that's not what the vast majority of prospective buyers(collectors?) want.

I'd keep it for a while and get some enjoyment out of what you've spent your time and money creating. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IainRS wrote:
Looks and sounds like a cracking car; could be a real bargain for someone.

Re selling, I think your lack of interest stems from the fact that it is not a standard car anymore. Modified cars are nearly always harder to sell and you never get back anything like what you put into them. It doesn't matter how subtle or 'good' the mods/improvements are, its been changed from the original factory spec and unfortunately that's not what the vast majority of prospective buyers(collectors?) want.

I'd keep it for a while and get some enjoyment out of what you've spent your time and money creating. Smile


+1...methinks that's pretty sound advice.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick w wrote:
IainRS wrote:
Looks and sounds like a cracking car; could be a real bargain for someone.

Re selling, I think your lack of interest stems from the fact that it is not a standard car anymore. Modified cars are nearly always harder to sell and you never get back anything like what you put into them. It doesn't matter how subtle or 'good' the mods/improvements are, its been changed from the original factory spec and unfortunately that's not what the vast majority of prospective buyers(collectors?) want.

I'd keep it for a while and get some enjoyment out of what you've spent your time and money creating. Smile


+1...methinks that's pretty sound advice.


Cheers guys Thumb I know the value of mods will never be recovered, and it could never be expected with this car ( I have two invoices alone that come in at 103K within the last 2 years).
I really would keep this car forever if it was solely down to my discretion. I have sort of agreed to a compromise solution hence the 996 project which should at least be a little consolation for when the 997 goes.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The season is upon us so inviting offers Wink
No px thanks Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ELA wrote:
The season is upon us so inviting offers Wink
No px thanks Wink


Damn and I have a cracking Purple Nissan Micra convertible that I was willing to swap!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purple you say; I may just have to reconsider Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought guys, I've received an email regarding buying parts off the car; now as much as it would pain me to split the most developed and perfect RS, returning to stock may make sense.
From memory my original post here lists all the fitted parts and I would basically need stock parts in return where applicable, but in principle would there be any interest in the parts from you guys. I'll start a seperate thread listing the parts if there is enough demand to justify this. Obviously Carrera White would be preferred for body panels, black wheels...
Your thoughts would be much appreciated Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thoughts, since you are asking. I wouldn't bother getting it back to a stock car. I dont think you can get back there completely and at the end of the day as much as some people only want a standard car there's less that want a done, undone, and re done car than would want it modded I reckon.

I think if you seriously want to sell then get it into a dealer that can "vouch" for it as is and add a bit of safety for a potential buyer. jzm or the likes of them where you are. Hanging out in the backwaters of 911uk isn't going to get you the marketing clout you need. This is a forum post, not even a classifieds ad? As much as its an enthusiasts car and we are by definition enthusiastic there just are enough looky loos on here to get the job done unless you have a standard 993 Floor

Either that or i'll make you a silly offer Very Happy
 
  
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Last time we spoke, I believe you said the car wasn't advertised in Germany, is that still the case?
Trying to sell a lefty which is modded in the UK is always going to be tuff, without going through a specialist broker as Dan has suggested. If you really won't rid you would probably have a better chance I your home market.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senoj wrote:
My thoughts, since you are asking. I wouldn't bother getting it back to a stock car. I dont think you can get back there completely and at the end of the day as much as some people only want a standard car there's less that want a done, undone, and re done car than would want it modded I reckon.

I think if you seriously want to sell then get it into a dealer that can "vouch" for it as is and add a bit of safety for a potential buyer. jzm or the likes of them where you are. Hanging out in the backwaters of 911uk isn't going to get you the marketing clout you need. This is a forum post, not even a classifieds ad? As much as its an enthusiasts car and we are by definition enthusiastic there just are enough looky loos on here to get the job done unless you have a standard 993 Floor

Either that or i'll make you a silly offer Very Happy


Thanks Senoj, fully concur with your thoughts and as already mentioned, it would be a terrible shame to convert back to stock. Engine, gearbox, CUP steering system and ECU would stay as don't need the hassle of non-matching numbers and verification of mileage etc. That would leave something like the following being available:

-Full Akrapovic Titanium exhaust (manifolds, cats, silencers, tips...)
-Carbon doors
-Carbon Door cards
-Carbon wings
-Carbon Bonnet
-Front cage extension
-Lightweight carpet set
-Porsche 997.2RS Genuine rear wing and engine cover
-H&R coilovers
-BBS alloys
-CUP motorsport Airbox
-CUP steering wheel
-OMP Harnesses
-Carbon Strut brace front

I have spoke to JZM but they do not want LHD or modded cars. So as I can't covert it to a stock 993 Grin that leaves me to take your silly offer Wink You never know, you may just be lucky.
As it currently stands the best offer I had was in November for 170K euro but I turned it down (truth be told I don't think I had the heart to sell it at the time). But now I really have no choice and since then have had various offers:

996GT2 + cash
996GT3RS straight swap
997.1GT3 + cash
Mac MP4-12C PX
150Keuro last week

The last offer is the best option for me right now as I don't need the hassle of selling another car.
So effectively, although the mods alone amount to pretty much the last offer I have had, this is where I stand right now. So if I was offered €150,000.01 euro now it would be the highest current bid Surprised

I could probably sell the parts above separately for £18-20K which would enable a little wiggle room in terms of price movement; it would however, just feel so wrong, to reverse what is so right though nooo
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