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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guy came over last night, and said the symptoms are that of the crank sensor.






What were the error codes please?


There were no error codes? I will see if we can find any error codes later and list them, but there was nothing being thrown up and likewise, all looked well on the computer.

Fingers crossed it will either be lack of fuel or or dodgey battery!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He use Porsche specific tool or hand scanner?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He use Porsche specific tool or hand scanner?


He has a Snapon Diagnostics reader, which has had the Porsche Software uploaded to it. He was definitely connected and inside the ECU as my girlfriend was standing next to the windscreen, he noticed this and sprayed her with the washer jets worship

In all seriousness we we had options to read all over the car and different places. He was opening the bootlid, bonnet etc with it. So I'm sure it would have picked up some codes if they were showing. Come to think of it, there was an instrument cluster fail code, from when I was installing my headunit a weeks back. Which we cleared, so yes it must have been working.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to question - was just double checking.



If there is no engine code stored it must be mechanical - i.e. blocked fuel filter, or engine 'earth' as suggested before. Its a shame you're so far or I'd jack it up and look. I would change fuel filter if you can hear it prime with ignition on (position two).



Last time my old BMW didn't start there were wires that got 'snagged/bitten' by some wild creature that I never caught! Could be rodent damage - god knows!


Good luck!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry to question - was just double checking.



If there is no engine code stored it must be mechanical - i.e. blocked fuel filter, or engine 'earth' as suggested before. Its a shame you're so far or I'd jack it up and look. I would change fuel filter if you can hear it prime with ignition on (position two).



Last time my old BMW didn't start there were wires that got 'snagged/bitten' by some wild creature that I never caught! Could be rodent damage - god knows!


Good luck!


No need to apologise! It's such a pain this issue. I am sure it is going to be something silly but finding it, is proven painstaking!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you checked for spark?

Have you checked fuel from pump?


Lets get these two out of the way. Your mechanic should be able to do this for you x
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine did this when my fuel pump died in my turbo. It is not an uncommon fault, my Indy has seen several.

You may here the pump prime but that doesn't mean it's flowing fuel. Also there are lots of pipes attached to the pump/swirl pot. If one of these hasa crack or hole in it then it will suck air in and lead to the same symptoms.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hoped that there would be a conclusion to this thread as it might have helped me in making a phone call tomorrow morning. frustrated

My car is in a pub car park 60 miles from home after suffering exactly the same issues as the OP.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hoped that there would be a conclusion to this thread as it might have helped me in making a phone call tomorrow morning. frustrated

My car is in a pub car park 60 miles from home after suffering exactly the same issues as the OP.

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My initial thought when hearing you crank it was Crank Position Sensor, I can hear your fuel pump priming and there is a smell of fuel from the exhaust when you crank it, which is strange because if the CPS is faulty it should shut the pump down so it doesn't fire but maybe its different and shuts the spark down instead? A cam sensor could also be a culprit?

Another possibility is fuel delivery, specifically the pressure required and if its not enough it may not fire, hence the smell of fuel but no fire.

I hope it is something simple and cheap, pity I wasn't in a P car or I would have had my Durametric with me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Chris. Fingers-crossed the car should be at OPC Brooklands by 1pm.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interested to know what your problem is, that was me googling and hanging around btw. bye

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interested to know what your problem is, that was me googling and hanging around btw. bye



Thanks for your efforts Mark. I'll keep you posted.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s9ety wrote:
Nicholassss wrote:
He use Porsche specific tool or hand scanner?


He has a Snapon Diagnostics reader, which has had the Porsche Software uploaded to it. He was definitely connected and inside the ECU as my girlfriend was standing next to the windscreen, he noticed this and sprayed her with the washer jets worship

In all seriousness we we had options to read all over the car and different places. He was opening the bootlid, bonnet etc with it. So I'm sure it would have picked up some codes if they were showing. Come to think of it, there was an instrument cluster fail code, from when I was installing my headunit a weeks back. Which we cleared, so yes it must have been working.


I connected to my 911 turbo with my friends garage snapon diagnostic system. While it did connect fine and could operate things like you describe, it did NOT provide the proper P codes that a Porsche PIWIS scanner will provide, or what I ended up buying, Durametric.

The codes I got from it were very generic (and some were innacurate) and when I bought Durametric I then got precise codes which took me straight to the problem . So it would be worth getting someone with Piwis or durametric to scan it if your still stuck. His Snapon is the latest kit with monthly updates and all the bells and whistles

** just seen that post was 5 years old Grin but its valid for anyone in the same position. Generic code readers are no use for proper diagnostics IMO

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hoped that there would be a conclusion to this thread as it might have helped me in making a phone call tomorrow morning. frustrated

My car is in a pub car park 60 miles from home after suffering exactly the same issues as the OP.

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ohh dear. Hope you get it sorted it speedily T8
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a very similar situation with my 993 and it turned out to be the fuel pump. I managed to get a replacement with the correct bosch part number - half the price of the Porsche part
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK here's a dart.....

Clutch switch ? A £20 part and a 15 min fix ??
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fingers-crossed the car should be at OPC Brooklands by 1pm.



It's there.

Apparently it started and was limped 4 car lengths through the narrow car-park gate to the recovery truck by which time it stank of petrol.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sorry young man .. not good news but hopefully not too expensive ... Warranty i expect .

i have a couple of ideas but no point going at it in detail as its at the garage and they will soon be able to tell you what's wrong .
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 sorry to read of your non start issue last night, sorry to be worse than useless relative to digitally controlled Porsches...hope the hit is none too hard.. Mad

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