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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry young man .. i totally missed this post .. you need to give me a nudge if theres anything i can help with .. i thought you had just the Boxster you were working on Embarassed

AOS on these is much easier than a 996 and they dont tend to give the full on bellowing smoke .. but can give as with yours a puff more than normal.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkGolf wrote:
Small update.

I replaced the oil pressure sender last night, 5 minute job from the point of opening the deck lid to closing and starting the car.

I used a 19mm crow foot with an extension, unplugged the 2 wires, broke the sender loose and then twisted it out, new one in, twist in then tighten up. Push the connectors on, job done.

Ended up going on a 1 hour drive after, pressure readings perfect, just below 3 bar hot idle as it was before the last sender failed.

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For reference, the sender is reachable from the top and just under the pipes in the circled area, green wire leads to it.



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FWIW, the combined oil pressure/temp sender on the 997.2 is not quite as accessible and requires a small engine drop to access. Ask me how I know Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just re visited this thread Mark, forgot how interesting it was Thumb
Great photo's by the way. They tell the story really well Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Iain, don't you worry, I will!!

Wow, I initially feared that this was going to be a nightmare job like that but thankfully, 5 minutes outside a mates house. Having to drop the engine probably would have led me to put up with the faulty sensor. Cop

Cheers Chief! Just like to keep a diary on each of the cars. They have been pretty good for checking back and remembering when I last did something.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much happening here, enjoyed using the car over the past few week but will tuck it up for a bit now that the salt spreaders are appearing.

Bought a battery isolator for it.

Did have a spot of trouble over Christmas.. I could smell coolant and later in the day, I noticed some wetness under the front. I thought something must have broken my radiator as the last time I saw them, they were in great condition... Begrudgingly, I set about removing the front bumper to take a closer look and hopefully get a new radiator before everywhere closed for Christmas.

With the bumper out of the way, straight away I could see where the coolant had leaked from, it was those stupid stupid stupid push clips, well, clip which holds the coolant pipe into the back of the centre radiator, it looks like pressure had forced the pipe out. I fitted the rad approx 3.5 years ago and the coolant has always remained level so I am slightly baffled as to why it has only come loose now. Anyhow, a simple push of the pipe back in, I removed the clip and tightened it up and then refitted everything!







Fixed! Easy but annoying job thumbsup
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Astounding work Mark, super detailed descriptions with great photography to back it all up. I have just spent a very interesting afternoon and evening drinking it all in.. THANKS.

I find it interesting that it seems the 964 or older sports cars in general seem to provide you with a little bit extra over that which your 997 delivers, I can not say I am greatly surprised, which would seem strange as I have never even sat in a 997, though have owned a few GT`s and a few sports cars in my time.

I applaud your attention to detail, and as I advanced through the 964 thread arriving at the completion of that wonderful paint job... I recalled the chap who rebuilt my fun car had done it to such a standard that to him every stone chip felt like a personal injury, and that is how I came to own it. Thus, I did wonder if that might just take the shine off (pun intended) your ability to enjoy the car as you might have otherwise done...?

Me..? On the first day home with my concours condition car... I blasted it up an unmade local road with stones flying everywhere... As one who has spent time over many years with spanners, welding torch and spray gun trying to achieve perfection.... it felt painful, it really did, but I wanted to get it over with fast.... rather than risk feeling like suffering a slow death by a thousand cuts ... but then that is just me.

Thanks again for sharing all your efforts, it has been a great education.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the kind post!

There is something about the 964 and older cars in general, more character for certain but the feel, noise, it just creates an experience which IMO, cars after circa 2005 starts to lose. Newer cars are great but I think that is also their downfall, they are too good, they need to be pushed well over the speed limit to have fun. The 997 falls in that category, they're simply too good to be enjoyed on the road 90% of the time. Older cars, they don't need to be taken over the speed limit to get that buzz, my MX5 gives me that buzz within the speed limit, the 964, while I don't throw it around, keeps me calm while I sit within the oil perfrumed interior with a windscreen in my face and pedals off to one side, I like the character and charm of it, the noise, it offers enjoyment in a different form.

The 997 is a great car but it needs to be on it's limit to deliver what it is best at. It is not a car for general road use or sticking to speed limits IMO, it just isn't fun and if I'm honest, wasted, which is why I refrain from using it for daily duties. When I do take it out, I do so when I know I will have some clear runs and I love the car all over again. So much so, as often as I do think to replace it and the options vary and change like the weather, Ferrari 360, GT3, M3, M5, 997 GTS, I just don't make the change, perhaps if 355's come down a touch, I would as that is the pinnacle of cars for me, the right era, the styling, noise, perfection in my eyes. So there is a draw to the 997, perhaps a Porsche thing and a passion for the brand but any thoughts to change are soon forgotten after a decent clear run.

I have a close friend who is just like me, we care so much for the cars, get them in great condition but then feel like we can't use them, a shame really, as he says, we just keep them fresh for the next guy. It is something I want to get out of, whatever car I get next, I don't think I will go to the level of cleaning every inch of it, it does detract from the enjoyment there after as I don't like the effort to go to waste or to have to do it all over again, I'll get over it I hope, however, to whoever owns my 997 next, or any of the current cars with the exception of my Focus diesel (That's another story), I've kept it fresh and well maintained for you

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thread, Mark and lovely job with the 997!!!
After reading it I think I get the idea, but please tell me how it feels to move on from the e46 M3 to the 997 precisely.
I have a lovely Oxford Green M3, which I have kind of fallen out of love due to the RACP failure of BMW and now seriously considering a 997. I love the handling, rawness and everything about the way the e46 M3 drives and I don't know what is good enough to replace it. e90/2 M3 - a true monster, but a bit numb. Definitely don't like how the latest M3/4 feel and drive on track. Looking at the 997 now ...
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!

I was in your shoes, I think I would not have made the move if my M3 were manual, I grew to dislike the SMG.

It is down to preference, the M3 is more raw and that is what I like in a car, I wouldn't say the 997 is refined like newer cars which in turn are numb such as a 991 but it is slightly more grown up than the M3, it is faster in all aspects IMO but it does that so well, without any drama and that's what I miss and now get from my MX5 turbo. The grip threshold on the 997 is far greater and I haven't explored it as I don't try to get near it on the road in fear of my license/car. The M3 was quite easy to find and didn't require license losing speed to get loose.

Drive one, it may tick the box but I feel like the 997 is a good car to have alongside an M3, not replace it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much happening with this, actually thinking I really should sell it now.

MOT has expired but plan on getting it done this or next weekend, it's also due a minor service so I'll have that booked in at 9e once I have an MOT done.

roughly 300 miles in 14 months....



New OEM fuel cap, seal was cracking on original..



Promised myself that I'll use it for a while in place of the Boxster once MOT/Serviced. bye
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thread, I’m a newbie picking up my gen 1 c2s on Monday, very useful thread and a great read so thank you!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Simon! I hope it helps along your 997 journey!

MOT done along with my Boxster, passed no problem! Got my mate to drive it so I could see it rolling.







I was told they would fail it if it comes back next year with a less than 1000 mile increase since the MOT Dont know wack

My Millers 10/50 NT+ arrived so I can now book it in for a service. Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car has had some time spent on it. Very Happy

A full day giving it a thorough clean, a full machine polish using the 2 stage Meguiars micofibre polishing kit, initially a cutting stage finished with a polish to remove any swirls and marks, came up great! I decided to use Soft99 Fusso coat as it gives long lasting results and as I've got a baby now, I just don't have the time to keep applying products on a monthly basis which give superior gloss but as a pay off, don't last long. The Fusso coat is perfect, the car is as glossy as it can be since I have just machine polished it and the Fusso will help lock that in and protect the finish. It can last up to a year but I find 6 - 8 months typical.














After all of that, it went for a minor service at Nine Excellence. Love popping here as there is also Porsche porn on display, I won't post pictures but lets just say GT2's of more than 1 variety, Carrera GT, 964 RS blah blah. Anyway, after a nice coffee and an hour perving, my car was ready and was kindly complimented on it's condition.



It looks like I only did just over 600 miles since the last service in 2017!! nooo Every time I get the car out, I love it and tell myself I need to keep it and just use it more, it's a great all rounder and for road use, anything faster is just wasted, I think my complaint is that the car needs to be used on the track to be enjoyed to it's potential, on the road, you cannot get near it's limits, in my area anyway! I will take it out more!!



Anyway, I provided 9E with 10 litres of Millers 10/50 NT+ as always, I was shown the oil filter and it was crystal clear and told to just not worry about this car scoring as it's still low mileage and benefited from the yearly changes with Millers. So all smiles.

Next, use the car more and I am going to try spraying the entire underside with a new product I've grown to love, Bilt Hamber Atom Mac. This stuff is superb!! I've used it on the Cayenne subframes and various metal work, it essentially inhibits rust from forming, I spray it on the brake discs before they get wet from washing the they barely have any reaction to the water resulting in rust! Brilliant as you won't dust your freshly cleaned wheels upon braking for the first time after a wash. It does work, so, coating the underside will help stop corrosion building up and parts rusting!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

worship to the condition of your car. thumbsup

It sounds like you need to get yourself across the water and down to 'The Fatherland' to fully enjoy the 911 ownership experience.

A nice trip combining autobahns and the fast twisties to be found in 'The Forests' would do your car justice.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!! I think I will bring this along to the next Fairmile meet.

I think I do, I loved the car more than ever when I took it over to Germany, it does need clear fast roads to really enjoy it although in the back of my mind, the replacement options are drawing me in but I want to concentrate on my 13 week old boy before I get distracted by a new toy and the mass of time I always put into them as soon as they get home. (That's with my sensible head on anyway)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic thread, Interesting to see the Hose kept it's seal on the 3rd rad and then suddenly started weeping over 3 years later,

It's a cracking car and reminds me very much of my own personal battle with my Demons in keeping them pristine..... EVERY Car i have ever had i was going to keep forever..... Subsequently the next owner gets a fantastic almost near Show car !


NORE IMPORTANTLY!!!!!! Enjoy the time with your Son !

And don't while away the years fretting over cars, My Son now 15 has not once shown any interst in Cars what so ever ! Despite me being quite prolofic with several over the years, I think i's one of those my Dad's out of date stance's...... A bit like telling them the song theylike is a re mix of a song that was out when i was a lad..... Just like my Dad did when i was young and happnin !

He;s 15 Next week, He;s a keen Rugby Player so we spend weekend's traveling around Yorkshire to Matches, Cricket, School takes up a great deal of time for obvious reasons, and as a result my infactuation with the Motor vehicle has wained over the past decade and a half, it's always been there but i'm a lot less ***** than i used to be, Scratches, Dings, Balls hiiting the car, Bikes in and out of the garage, the stuff you have had night mares about are all coming your way i too have been into Show & Shine, GTI International at Crowthorne every year back in the day, Audi meets, RWYB at Santa Pod...... Cleaning, replacing, polishing all took a back seat litterally while i turned my hand at becomming a Dad, over the summer Holiday's hes all of a sudden infactueted with Mini Cooper's ! we are now Talking about suspension, Replacement exhausts and air filters....... We have booked Him a day's driving on Sunday for his Birthday, he found out about it the other day and hasn't shut up on about it yet, Its almost as if he's invented not only driving but the Motor car as well...... I'm now being educated by 15 Year Old....

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MarkGolf wrote:


...... I loved the car more than ever when I took it over to Germany, it does need clear fast roads to really enjoy it although in the back of my mind ............... but I want to concentrate on my 13 week old boy



I vaguely recall when my son was 13 weeks old. It was a few months after I had to sell my first Porsche. Evil or Very Mad

Seriously, their formative years are great fun but it'll get even better when you can go on a Eurohoon together and share in his first lap around 'The Ring'. For me that was well worth the 30 year wait. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C4Silver wrote:
Fantastic thread, Interesting to see the Hose kept it's seal on the 3rd rad and then suddenly started weeping over 3 years later,

It's a cracking car and reminds me very much of my own personal battle with my Demons in keeping them pristine..... EVERY Car i have ever had i was going to keep forever..... Subsequently the next owner gets a fantastic almost near Show car !


NORE IMPORTANTLY!!!!!! Enjoy the time with your Son !

And don't while away the years fretting over cars, My Son now 15 has not once shown any interst in Cars what so ever ! Despite me being quite prolofic with several over the years, I think i's one of those my Dad's out of date stance's...... A bit like telling them the song theylike is a re mix of a song that was out when i was a lad..... Just like my Dad did when i was young and happnin !

He;s 15 Next week, He;s a keen Rugby Player so we spend weekend's traveling around Yorkshire to Matches, Cricket, School takes up a great deal of time for obvious reasons, and as a result my infactuation with the Motor vehicle has wained over the past decade and a half, it's always been there but i'm a lot less ***** than i used to be, Scratches, Dings, Balls hiiting the car, Bikes in and out of the garage, the stuff you have had night mares about are all coming your way i too have been into Show & Shine, GTI International at Crowthorne every year back in the day, Audi meets, RWYB at Santa Pod...... Cleaning, replacing, polishing all took a back seat litterally while i turned my hand at becomming a Dad, over the summer Holiday's hes all of a sudden infactueted with Mini Cooper's ! we are now Talking about suspension, Replacement exhausts and air filters....... We have booked Him a day's driving on Sunday for his Birthday, he found out about it the other day and hasn't shut up on about it yet, Its almost as if he's invented not only driving but the Motor car as well...... I'm now being educated by 15 Year Old....

Floor


Thank you! The hose was a bit of a strange one, crappy design but one used by the entire VAG group.

It is a bit of a bad habit of mine, I tend to get my cars all immaculate but then be scared to use them! As a good mate says, "Fresh for the next guy" when he looks at my cars.It drives me mad as I just can't sleep until their prestine again if they do get a little dirty.. lol

Great advice and story, appreciate that, it's all new for me at the moment and I am quite comfortbale stepping back from the car obsession, although at 13 weeks, he does take an interest in Nurburgring POV videos and bright cars on youtube videos, so that's a start Smile Although a break for 15 years probably wouldn't be a bad thing, it may actually enable me to enjoy using a car Grin Thanks for that, that was a great little read!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
MarkGolf wrote:


...... I loved the car more than ever when I took it over to Germany, it does need clear fast roads to really enjoy it although in the back of my mind ............... but I want to concentrate on my 13 week old boy



I vaguely recall when my son was 13 weeks old. It was a few months after I had to sell my first Porsche. Evil or Very Mad

Seriously, their formative years are great fun but it'll get even better when you can go on a Eurohoon together and share in his first lap around 'The Ring'. For me that was well worth the 30 year wait. Very Happy


That's what I am looking forward to! I am already in the process of planning his first trip there Floor Floor Floor Floor Although I may try and postpone until he is aware of where he is rather than trying to satisfy myself Grin
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Nothing much to update with here, just had the car out for a drive the other night, had my new iPhone 11Pro and wanted to try out the camera which now has a night mode..

Pretty blown away by the pics, considering they are just point and shoot in the dark and it is a phone, I am amazed. It would have taken ages to set up my SLR to achieve these results..

New .5 lens feature














Anyway, was nice to have the car out on open roads, probably won't use it for a while now as I think the gritters are out! frustrated nooo
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