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ch3tman
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1995 Porsche 993 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the comments Smile.

Jcx wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly. I find with my 964 it sometimes feels more balanced and turns in faster when you ask more from it. I.e. give it more beans and it gets more stable.

Glad I'm not alone. I do still drive with caution however, during these early days of ownership... I've read over the years that once the rear of a 911 catches up with the front, well, you're beyond the point of saving it. I hope to never experience this...

Fourtuitous wrote:
Great photos. The second one down is a lovely angle. I love my 4S but whenever I see shots like this of an unadulterated NB I think they are a timeless and perfectly proportioned shape. Makes the Ferrari look old fashioned yet the 993 would look good next to the most beautiful coupes from any era from the early 1950s to present day.

Looks like you had a cracking journey. Thanks for posting the photos.

Thank you, and I agree 100%. Interestingly, my wife made a contrasting comment, indicating the Ferrari, despite it being a 1978 model, looked more modern than the Porsche! what.... perhaps due to the lower and flatter roof line, lower front spoiler coupled with the traditional supercar slantnose bonnet. We agreed to disagree puh Very Happy.

Citori wrote:
Don't be tempted, do it..
Citori wrote:
Don't contemplate, do it.

Very Happy - you're not helping my rational decision making!

Citori wrote:
Great looking car and the number plate looks cool too.... Wink Very Happy.

Thank you once again for you help on getting that sized & sorted thumbsup

harry kular wrote:
The black and white one is this week's desktop background- thanks! Smile
madalaa wrote:
...... I have just done the same ....... Smile

I'm honoured! The image above isn't the best resolution...If you click [HERE] I've uploaded a higher quality version (1440p) which should look a little better as a desktop background Thumb.
 
  
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madalaa
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1995 Porsche 993 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....actually that new one is too big ..... it overfills ...... so back to old one for me ..... but thanks anyway ...... Smile
 
  
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harryk
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ch3tman wrote:


Citori wrote:
Great looking car and the number plate looks cool too.... Wink Very Happy.

Thank you once again for you help on getting that sized & sorted thumbsup



I was actually going to PM you about that, as it looks really well and I have a similar c4 plate. Could you advise on the spec please?
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jonttt
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 10 weeks and 1.5k miles into ownership... Reply with quote

ch3tman wrote:







Great pics.

I stopped at the same spot for pics 5 years ago......





I always remember that day as it was gorgeous and being midweek the day after schools returned I had 2 clear laps of the Evo Triangle which is a rarity nowadays
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ch3tman
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1995 Porsche 993 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harry kular wrote:
ch3tman wrote:
Citori wrote:
Great looking car and the number plate looks cool too.... Wink Very Happy.
Thank you once again for you help on getting that sized & sorted thumbsup

I was actzally going to PM you about that, as it looks really well and I have a similar c4 plate. Could you advise on the spec please?

Sure...
The standard size for a UK plate is: 20.5" x 4.5"
My plate size is: 16" x 4.5"

There are various rules on British Standards compliance, font type, font size, character height/width/spacing, etc.; you can read all about that on the gov.uk site.

If your similar plate has the same number of characters as mine, you could actually get away with a 13.5" size and remain within the spacing rules, however this would involve you cutting the plate down yourself - not something I wanted to do.

Despite there being several plate suppliers on eBay, I found sellers were either eager to advertise their name on the plate (not interested, I wanted a clean look), non-compliant with BS (not interested in being stopped for my number plate!) or simply unresponsive.

I then found lots of good feedback for 'myshowplates' on PistonHeads forums and decided to go with them - they responded to questions within a day and actually delivered within 2 days too. Their website is a little... 'busy' though! Neutral Hope that helps? Any other questions, just drop me a PM thumbsup.

jonttt wrote:
Great pics.

I stopped at the same spot for pics 5 years ago......

Thank you - likewise Wink You definitely stopped on the better side and evidently enjoyed better weather. The day after we passed through, there were clear skies and sunshine for the whole day.... typical what.
 
  
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harryk
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant, many thanks!
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aak
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lovely picd chet!

I just bought the full compliment of LEDs from Tore. Do it!

The bypass is a must as far as I am concerned.

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Citori
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1996 Porsche 993 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Just noticed on your signature that you already run RSR's. In which case I would be a bit careful on what size bypass you go for. You don't want them too loud and attract the attention of plod.
I don't know anybody with bypassed RSR's but at a guess I don't think I would want to go above 1".
RSR's sound pretty good as they are IMHO.
ATB
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truckseller
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great pictures, I don't know a lot about the models years but that would have been my dream car as well, what sort of money would you pay for a clean 993 coupe, manual with sensible mileage. I have got an 07 cabriolet s which I bought on impulse in November last year, it is the best thing I have ever owned, I use it most days and it just gets better the cabriolet would not have been first choice but it is great with the roof off. The only thing is they are a bit addictive and I fancy either going younger for a Gen 2 Targa or older for a 993. Just bloody lovely cars but there to be used!!
 



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jonttt
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Citori wrote:
Hi
Just noticed on your signature that you already run RSR's. In which case I would be a bit careful on what size bypass you go for. You don't want them too loud and attract the attention of plod.
I don't know anybody with bypassed RSR's but at a guess I don't think I would want to go above 1".
RSR's sound pretty good as they are IMHO.
ATB
Steve.


I run RSR's and Wayne's remap transformed them. I don't think I could run with sports cats or a bypass as well. I aleady have people turning around to see what's coming Grin
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ch3tman
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1995 Porsche 993 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

truckseller wrote:
Great pictures, I don't know a lot about the models years but that would have been my dream car as well, what sort of money would you pay for a clean 993 coupe, manual with sensible mileage.

You're probably aware the air-cooled market has been rather busy and in demand over the last year or so; here are two threads from recent months, that have discussed 993 values, which will probably help with your question:

- No 993's for sale!!
- What would you sell your car for - NOW.

Citori wrote:
Hi
Just noticed on your signature that you already run RSR's. In which case I would be a bit careful on what size bypass you go for. You don't want them too loud and attract the attention of plod.

Not sure if aimed at me Steve?
My exhaust is current standard with standard tips. Agree RSRs and a bypass would be rather excessive! yes
 
  
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Riviera Bob
Nürburgring


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Location: France


PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:


I run RSR's and Wayne's remap transformed them.


I've been holding back on a Wayne remap whilst I consider the merits of a LWF and/or sports cats but hearing that, maybe should have remap now (I have Fister 2s) and live with it for a bit first. The remap made a big difference to the exhaust note from the improved torque curve?
 
  
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jonttt
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riviera Bob wrote:
jonttt wrote:


I run RSR's and Wayne's remap transformed them.


I've been holding back on a Wayne remap whilst I consider the merits of a LWF and/or sports cats but hearing that, maybe should have remap now (I have Fister 2s) and live with it for a bit first. The remap made a big difference to the exhaust note from the improved torque curve?


It made a massive difference which I was not expecting, the burble and popping on overrun is awesome, makes me enjoy driving constantly in second gear in traffic, leave a gap, give it some beans, lift, crackle and pop Very Happy
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Riviera Bob
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jonttt, great news.....I'll book the remap over the summer and look forward to the enhanced crackle and pop from the Fisters.
 
  
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Lig
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ch3tman,

Glad you got one in the end! I totally know what you mean about the handling. I have had mine for just over a year now and on Easter Monday I did a sprint at Croft circuit, mainly just to get to know the car in a safer environment, and it was awesome, so long as you keep the steady gas round the bends it just sticks like glue, I did misjudge a bend and had to lift off and it was a bit scary, but not as bad as i thought and still very controllable. I am running the standard Conti sport contact 2 Porsche spec tyres and really like them, it did make me think how it must be with Toyo R888 Evil or Very Mad

Interesting people discussing the cracks and pops with the remap.. I do get a bit of that on lift off at the moment with my Fisters - Out of interest do you also get that now as well Bob??

Cheers,
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jonttt
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riviera Bob wrote:
Thanks Jonttt, great news.....I'll book the remap over the summer and look forward to the enhanced crackle and pop from the Fisters.


You may have trouble getting hold of Wayne especially at this time of year. Best to keep texting him and if you can get to 9m in Warrington you'll have a much better chance.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lig wrote:


Interesting people discussing the cracks and pops with the remap.. I do get a bit of that on lift off at the moment with my Fisters - Out of interest do you also get that now as well Bob??



Hi Lig....I spent ages listening to sound clips and couldn't decide between Fister 2s or 3s. Wanted to hear them in the flesh but was never going to happen outside the US so plumped for the middle of the road 2s as I do a lot of autoroute driving and was worried if too loud it would become tiresome. I'm very happy with them and get a little crackle on liftoff but maybe more noticeable from the outside rather than in the cab. I would like more which is why I have sports cats as a future idea (but a little worried they'll end up too loud and attract the wrong sort of attention) but reading Jonttt's post I'm now hoping a remap will do the trick instead. It's my first year of ownership so I'm trying to be strict with myself, get the important things done, and live for a while with any mods I do before jumping on to the next one -budget allowing! I love this forum, and it's ever so helpful, but it's easy to overindulge and want everything at once!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I get out for a run in mine tomorrow I'll try and get some sound clips as I could do with updating my journal Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riviera Bob wrote:
Thanks Jonttt, great news.....I'll book the remap over the summer and look forward to the enhanced crackle and pop from the Fisters.


If you're coming over the Channel on the way to Wayne's you have to pass through Kent so could be worth popping into Powerspeed for a cheeky pair of 100/200cel cats beforehand? Would be rude not to.

Of course on the way back you then pass close to Chris at Center Gravity you know? Just to tie it all together... Whistling
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you guys run a sports cat with RSR's and not wear ear muffs Surprised

My BMW is too loud for street use (and track) but I have got used to it. My 993 is quieter but swmbo opens the gate for me when I'm half a mile away as she hears me nooo no way I could fit sports cats as well.
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