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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screen wash is my limit and maybe top up the oil. I wouldn't know where to start with any of this stuff. Amazing work and nice to see it so well documented.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ian,

Just caught up with your thread, nice work Thumb

Keep it going,
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd check those Douglas Valley mounts when under load as they could end up having more stretch than a eunuch's jock-strap Dont know

Other option (like me) was to fit 993C4 mounts - half price of the C2 ones Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Santa has been late to my house and left me these Very Happy



Well excited when these arrived, but when I opened the box I immediately noticed a problem?



The eagle eyed of you out there will have noticed there's no nut or spring plate to hold the spring on two of the dampers?



This confused me a lot and I could only conclude that I must have to remove the missing parts from my original suspention nooo
I rang larkspeed who agreed this seemed odd, they rang koni who confirmed that I had to remove the nut that you turn to adjust the corner balancing and the plate that sits on top of it so the spring has a platform to sit on. Well not happy about this, I didn't expect to have to put 21 year old parts onto my lovely new suspention, that's if I can even wind the old nuts off! Surely koni could have fabricated the missing parts! I think this is a poor show from them nooo
Anyway I've got the day off tomorrow so going to try and fit them, I'll let you lot know how it goes and take plenty of pics Thumb


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent stuff Ian Pop Corn

Good luck,
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would get new ones from Porsche, I doubt they will cost much Dont know

Any answers on the bump stop to be used?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope it goes well for you Ian , keep up the good work lad Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thread. Wish I had your talent! thumbsup
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ras62 wrote:
I would get new ones from Porsche, I doubt they will cost much Dont know

Any answers on the bump stop to be used?


Bought some universal power flex ones, lifetime guarentee! And they came with dust covers. Front ones fit but the rears will need to be drilled a bit bigger.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good Ian. Hope you enjoy the Koni's, should be a great upgrade. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with the project bud!

Hope you're in the garage, as this weather hasn't let up at all. ***** sh!tty rain Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ian,

That situation with Koni is bizarre, I can understand your frustration.

Bu the way, what drove your decision to go the Koni route? I know there's loads of debate about suspension choice so I'm interest to know how you made the selection?. I'm going the b6 route.

Are you retaining existing springs?

Good luck with the install.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi mr bacchus, I went with the koni's for two reasons. First I've heard nothing but good things about them on 993 forums and second was budget, I got them for a good price and I all ready have 30mm lowering springs. I'll let you know how I get on with them.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I've got an update on the new suspention. Sorry for the poor pics but it's hard to be a professional photographer when your covered in oil and brake fluid!
Ok so here's the driver side spring and leg that I need to get off.

First I disconnected the abs and brake sensor wires. Also disconnected the brake pipe where it passes through the bracket attached to the leg.

I then removed the two bolts holding the leg to the hub. You need a 10mm Allen head bit and a bar.

Pic of bolts removed. You can see the hub has tilted forward when the bolts were removed.


Pic of bolts, there's a plate welded to the back of the leg to stop the nuts turning but mine still turned so I had to put a 17mm spanner on the back so I could wind them out with the bar and allen head bit.

I then removed the four nuts from the top of the leg located in the frunk.
These are 10mm and can be removed easily with a ratchet. Don't remove the big centre nut yet!

Leg removed.


Pic showing the state of my bump stop. The big nut at the top has been removed (22mm) this allows you to lift off the strut top, spring and the plate the spring sits on.


Ok things now take a turn for the worst as I have to try and remove the alloy nut that you would turn to adjust the ride height and corner balancing. Couldn't take pictures of this as I was to buisy having a nervous breakdown! If anyone else fits these to a 964 you must buy new alloy nuts, it's just not worth the hassle of trying to remove them. I couldn't as I needed to get the job finished and the car out of my dads back yard.
I had to use heat, air hacksaw, hammer and chisels to remove the whole alloy collar from the leg and then cut and break it away from the nut without damaging the threads.

I eventually managed to remove the nut and fit it to the new leg. The spring seat sits on top of this then New bump stop and dust cover.

Then spring and strut top assembly fitted and 22mm nut fitted to hold it all together. Normally you would need to compress the spring with spring compressors but I managed to push the spring down enough by hand to get the nut started. I also removed all the plastic clips from the old leg and fitted the to the new one, you need these to hold your abs and brake sensor wires.

Now time to refit, lift the leg back into place and fit the four 10mm nuts in the frunk to the strut top. Then you can bolt the new leg to the hub. I had to jack the hub and disc up to refit the bolts (needed to do this so the holes would line up).


Bolts going back in.


Then refit the abs and brake sensor wires and brake pipe.

The first koni fitted!
Seriously though why the f@@k koni haven't supplied thes with the adjuster nut for the fronts when they have for the back is a total joke! I can honestly say if they had I would have got the rears finished aswell instead of just the fronts. Probably about 30 mins to remove the leg, 25 mins to refit and 3 hours to strip the missing parts from the old leg frustrated
Rears tomorrow, I think they will be a lot easier.

Ian
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work Ian, I think you have done very well there!

I can't think how Koni get away with these omissions, it's almost like a cost cutting measure if it wasn't so laughable. Erm, I doubt you're laughing though Question

Hope all goes well tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracking on Ian, a bit of pissing about with those collars , the rears can be a bit fiddly to get the retaining bolts lined up and are bloody fiddly to get the nuts on however all worth it the car will feel brand new.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work there Ian, very satisfying doing it yourself.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doing a cracking job there bud Smile

Good luck with the next stage.

If you don't get her back on the road for Sunday and still fancy the drive out I'll pick you up.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks lads Smile

Chris I'm planning to be road worth come Sunday! But if something disastrous happens I'll be thumbing a lift on the A69 thumbsup


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always a struggle to get those parts off and they always look chewed which is why I suggested new. BTW the upper bolts at the bottom of the shock are a one time use and should always be replaced.
 
  
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