Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:16 pm Post subject:
Hello again,
Before we get on to the serious business of the engine (more on that later) here's some pics of the carbon strut brace tried on, prior to the carpet being re-fitted:
Bye for now,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:04 pm Post subject:
Hi,
A few more photos for you.
Earlier this week I had the pleasure of chauffeuring 1970 Le Mans winner Richard Attwood (Porsche 917K) around Silverstone, he's very polite and a true gentleman.
I told him he's cost me a fortune over the last 30'odd years. It was him and the 917 that started it all, Steve McQueen didn't help either :rolleyes: By 1972 I was trussed up like a chicken
Back soon,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
KP964 Indianapolis
Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Posts: 2284 Location: Northumberland
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:19 pm Post subject:
Great pics and write up , lovely black 964 , you are able to do what i think a lot of us would love to do , looking forward to hearing about the engine work and how the car performs and sounds on the road , possibly a video to come , hint hint _________________ Stone Grey Metallic 964 C4
Guards Red 964 C4 sold
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:28 pm Post subject:
Quote:
Great pics and write up , lovely black 964 , you are able to do what i think a lot of us would love to do , looking forward to hearing about the engine work and how the car performs and sounds on the road , possibly a video to come , hint hint
Hi KP964,
You are very kind, it's long been an ambition to settle down into my dotage with another air-cooled 911. I'm planning on growing old disgracefully ha!
I couldn't surpass Frank with a vid but we'll see if we can put something together later. Perhaps we'll catch up sometime locally.
Cheers,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:32 pm Post subject:
Hi,
As promised here are some engine photos from this Tuesday gone.
This head showing machining on inlet.
A question I asked was why isn't the fuel inlet port (from the injectors) isn't also machined and Nick gave me a very comprehensive answer: The figures show more torque when the fuel inlet from the carbs/injectors (showing on side with 3 studs) is left rough as it helps with atomisation. However, once atomised the fuel mixture needs to get smoothly into the piston, hence the porting around the inlet valve.
Heavy duty TRW valves, springs and tungsten seats.
My son Edward with Bruce.
There should be regular photos towards the end of the build which is now going to be approaching fast.
Bye for now,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
inaglasshouse Trainee
Joined: 16 Nov 2011 Posts: 67 Location: Surrey, UK
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:09 pm Post subject:
Great work, thanks for sharing. I'm looking forward to the report on the finished engine, but presumably not as much as you are looking forward to having your gorgeous 964 back.
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:52 pm Post subject:
Hi,
Quote:
Great work, thanks for sharing. I'm looking forward to the report on the finished engine, but presumably not as much as you are looking forward to having your gorgeous 964 back.
Thanks Inaglasshouse! You've hit the nail on the head there! I can't wait to her back
I was hoping it would be this week for a long weekend away to mix some pleasure with business. It's still 2 or 3 weeks off, if everything goes ok.
The tin-ware, covers, bumper stays etc. (not the door handles yet though) have returned from being powder coated, as has the fan and cowling, more on them later.
.
This is a lovely bit of kit, a Quaife limited-slip differential for the Porsche G50 box. It seems like a must have for 350bhp hot rod and I'd been mulling over sliding one down the slippery slope for a while. Oh well, it's only money
I was about to ask Nick when met up with him again when he said, "Have you thought about a limited slip diff?" That's that sorted then. Nick likes these and if he says it's good, that's enough for me. Anyone had any experience of them or other aftermarket ltd-slip diffs on G50's?
Cheers,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
Chief Sepang
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 2754 Location: The Middle lands
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject:
Paul, slippy diff.....we're not worthy, we're not worthy!
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject:
Quote:
Paul, slippy diff.....we're not worthy, we're not worthy!
Cheers mate!
Valves now seated:
Pistons installed:
More soon,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
Zingari Donnington
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 12949 Location: Cheshire
(The Silver Surfer should be back this week with the dampers on and looks like Gemballa springs. Feedback is they've gone on OK. I've not had the bill yet ) _________________ The game's afoot. It's time to put a bit of (Colini) stick about......Why RUF when you can WUF
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject:
Hi Brian,
That's great news
They should have been a straight forward bolt on replacement. Where did the Gemballas, erm, spring from? Were the turbo coils too tall for you?
We might actually get out in our cars this summer then
You know the rules, pics please
Cheers,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
Zingari Donnington
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 12949 Location: Cheshire
Some suggestion the turbo springs are Gemballa as they were a popular fit on the turbo. By all accounts they have gone on OK and I agreed a ride height the same as the old set up. I've had all bushes replaced, new 993C4 engine mounts, new ARB and Goodridge hoses as well as a few other bits.
I've yet to confirm the set up and whether I need to borrow PeterS platform shoes to climb in Pics should be with the car when it comes back this week.
If I'm not in London at weekend I will be making the trip over to see the London crew at Donington _________________ The game's afoot. It's time to put a bit of (Colini) stick about......Why RUF when you can WUF
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:29 am Post subject:
Hi Brian,
You're certainly going to town on the Silver Surfer, can't wait to see the photos.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were an upgrade as the car they came from was cossetted to say the least. The stuff was in near perfect condition before I extravagantly powder coated them
Cheers,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject:
Hi All,
Now where's that dog's dinner? Followed by a large slice of humble pie
You may remember I said that too much carbon can look like a "dog's dinner" and I still believe that but have you seen this???
I know, it's beautiful isn't it? So I'm going to get humble with you guys and say I like the carbon on this and it's exactly the look I've been chasing, so please accept my apologies
This engine is a 3.0L race engine with PMO's and ITG's and has been built by JB Racing in Florida, notice the oil filter postioning. JB are now making me a carbon shroud for my 964 engine. They've already made one for their own 964 so they have a pattern.
Race engine obviously doesn't need heating, but I do so we will (Nick will ha) have to adapt the shroud to take this Rennline heater duct, mine will say 3.8.
The back of the shroud even has a divot for the throttle rod connection between the throttle bodies, perfect
Above is a similar JB kit.
The following pictures are of a JB Racing prepared Santos racing Porsche.
The whole thing won't look as brash when the engine is installed as you would just get glimpses of the carbon under the throttle bodies and with the top bank of cams having red plug leads the effect should be very smart.
JB Racing have been fantastic and especially Mike Bruns for arranging to have my kit made up quickly.
The cams are in now so a few more pics soon.
Cheers,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
Chief Sepang
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 2754 Location: The Middle lands
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:32 am Post subject:
Paul,
I don't know what to say........
It's so luuuuuvvvvvly
This bar is being risen so high, you'll need to be Jess Ennis to clear it!
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject:
Hi Guys,
A quick update, things have been held back on the engine build due to clearance issues from the pistons and valves, despite the cams being RSR and the pistons RS items.
Some machining was required on the pistons but the net result will be that they are going to be absolutely perfect, every cloud....
Rebuilding is already under way but we still have an empty engine bay, it looks clean anyway
Not so empty now eh? Ok, I know, but at least it's something. Not just any something either, the AC unit is painted up to match the fan which is also powder coated in "Dark Chrome"
Within a few days this will also look a lot different, further issues aside.
Some more bits have arrived, in fact we have everything to finish, I think...
The JB Racing carbon fan shroud above arrived in just 4 days from Tavares, Florida. A big thank you to Mike Bruns and Beverley for sorting the shipping. Mike has been outstanding in having this specially made up and delivered in time. Of course you don't need heating for racing in Florida but I like my creature comforts so as I said Nick will cut the connection for the heater duct from the old shroud and fit them together to mate up with the Rennline heater duct.
And finally for now, here is my Quaife LSD ready to be mated up.
More soon,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:34 pm Post subject:
Hi Guys,
A quick update, things have been held back on the engine build due to clearance issues from the pistons and valves, despite the cams being RSR and the pistons RS items.
Some machining was required on the pistons but the net result will be that they are going to be absolutely perfect, every cloud....
Rebuilding is already under way but we still have an empty engine bay, it looks clean anyway
Not so empty now eh? Ok, I know, but at least it's something. Not just any something either, the AC unit is painted up to match the fan which is also powder coated in "Dark Chrome"
Within a few days this will also look a lot different, further issues aside.
Some more bits have arrived, in fact we have everything to finish, I think...
The JB Racing carbon fan shroud above arrived in just 4 days from Tavares, Florida. A big thank you to Mike Bruns and Beverley for sorting the shipping. Mike has been outstanding in having this specially made up and delivered in time. Of course you don't need heating for racing in Florida but I like my creature comforts so as I said Nick will cut the connection for the heater duct from the old shroud and fit them together to mate up with the Rennline heater duct.
And finally for now, here is my Quaife LSD ready to be mated up.
More soon,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
PeterS Fuji
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 9285 Location: Solihull
Normally, when you get to that "engine assembled, on the stand" pic, the rest goes together pretty quickly, although you have the LSD to add.
Do we have a timescale?
Looking fantastic.
_________________
paul284pt Albert Park
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 1698 Location: North Yorks.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject:
Quote:
Normally, when you get to that "engine assembled, on the stand" pic, the rest goes together pretty quickly, although you have the LSD to add.
Do we have a timescale?
Looking fantastic.
Hi Peter,
Thanks and yes we're picking up the pace now, here's today's progress. The timescale, this time next week she'll finally be on the road again, barring un-forseen problems. The engine map is all ready on a memory stick for installation to the Motec M84.
The only parts we're waiting for are the door handles. We tried anodising them but the results weren't brilliant so they have gone off today to be powder coated. I mentioned in a previous post that Porsche anodised the early black 911 handles as the aluminium grade they used was superior to the late 80's and 90's cars (964's). Poorer quality aluminium doesn't hold anodising well and these later models were powder coated, so that's what we'll do. It was worth a try.
More tomorrow.
Cheers,
Paul _________________ 1980 - 84 924 Turbo with mods. (ex Tony Dron - 12th at Le Mans 1980 with works 924 Carrera Turbo).
1984 - 89 911 SC (1982)
1989 - 93 911 Carrera Sport (1989)
2010 - 964 Carrera 2 (1990) Redtek 3.8RSR
2012 - 14 Porsche Cayenne (2012)
2015 - 17 Porsche Cayenne Diesel S (2015)
2017 - 18 Macan Turbo Performance Package (2017)
2018 - 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS (2018)
KP964 Indianapolis
Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Posts: 2284 Location: Northumberland
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:48 pm Post subject:
Amazing work , you must be so looking forward to the finish line , hope it goes well for you . _________________ Stone Grey Metallic 964 C4
Guards Red 964 C4 sold
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum You can attach files in this forum You can download files in this forum You cannot post calendar events in this forum
![Porsche 911 [992]](./images/models/Model-992.gif)
![Porsche 911 [991]](./images/models/Model-991.gif)
![Porsche 911 [997]](./images/models/Model-997.gif)
![Porsche 911 [GT]](./images/models/Model-GT.png)
![Porsche 911 [996]](./images/models/Model-996.gif)
![Porsche 911 [993]](./images/models/Model-993.gif)
![Porsche 911 [RS]](./images/models/Model-RS.gif)
![Porsche 911 [964]](./images/models/Model-964.gif)
![Porsche 911 [Early]](./images/models/Model-Early.gif)
and a true gentleman.
Cheers mate!
)
so we will (Nick will ha) have to adapt the shroud to take this Rennline heater duct, mine will say 3.8.
