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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:21 pm    Post subject: Tiff does Bedford in a 991 cab + F-Type Jag Reply with quote

Nice to see the 3.4 getting some air time for a change.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great video. Really digging the front of the Jag, but the rear is terrible IMO.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some reason I find the Jag's styling quite odd - to me it's as if it's aged already... The proportions look good, but it just looks strangely old and not in a good way Dont know
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There a road test in this months car magazine
Reminds me of an old story
An American is touring Oxford university and comes across a groundsman tending the lawns
Excuse me sir how do you get your grass so green
I just roll it mow it and feed it sir
Gee that's just what I do , but why is your green so smooth, thick and deep,
But sir eve been doing it here for 200 years

I drove an original 6000 mile e type 5 years ago

Porsche have built the 911 for 50 years
There's been no e type for what 29 years?

Evolution not revolution might be why every sports car road test compares the car to the what car?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the F-Type looks lovely until somebody sits in it. Then it looks massive.

As for the performance, no surprise that the weight kills it on track, but the difference betweena manual 3.4 991 and a PDK/DSG F-Type is staggering.

A manual should be slower than a dual clutch on track so a PDK 3.4 991 would embarrass a supercharged F-Type.

However, lap times do not a good car make.

Perhaps the smaller engined car is supposed to be an overpriced competitor to the Cayman and the larger engined car is an underperforming competitor to the 991.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pedant mode - the Jag is an auto, not a dual-clutch unit.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for clarification purposes, which Porsche is the F-type competing against? Or is it competing at all?

(I can't see a base model F-type ie. the V6 & V6S being the choice over a 981 because it seems over-priced for the performance/package on offer. However, I can't see a premium F-type ie. the V8 & V8S being the choice over a 991 given the heritage of the Porsche).

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 3 models in the range start at 58k, 67k, and 79k. They should have created lighter more agile cars at increments 20k below each of the above. Unless they're killing off the XK? Would make sense to push that up and have this one fight lower down at Boxster level.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never really been a Jag fan but must say that the current model range is really good IMO. Jaguar and Ford couldn't get the business to work so who would've thought a pretty much unheard of brand in India could turn it into a success.

And oh my what a stunning car the F-Type Coupe looks, I can see myself in one of those sometime in the near future.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This gives me wood! Very Happy
 



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a cracking looking car. I have driven the roadsters and thought they were great. No manual 'box though?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having bought my 997 from the local Jag dealer I was fortunate enough to be given an F-type V6S as a loan car couple of weeks ago.

It is a great machine, the flappy paddle is the first one I have ever liked, my experience with them goes back to a 1995 Alpina.

As a toy the F-type would be great, but not as a commute or daily driver. The finish isn't quite up to Porsche standard, but then neither is my Rangie. Still a great car though and with the roof down a genuine sports car experience - higher rev acceleration is quite something, you really feel the SC getting into its stride. Having had a Mazdaspeed factory SC car before, I have a fondness for belt driven compression and this has to be the best implementation I have ever had the pleasure of experiencing.

The popping and barking exhaust is great fun (but could become tiresome with no off button) and I also really like the door handles.

Would I buy one over a 911? Academic as I couldn't afford an F-type at this time, but I still have a lot of reservations about the 991 - it looks too big to me - so if I was buying new the the Jag might come into it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




Better looking than any 991 I've seen yet, this car is a real problem for Porsche in the UK IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martian wrote:
This gives me wood! Very Happy




I would puh
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's alright for a Jag Bandit

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
It's alright for a Jag Bandit

Grin


Hey, we're* all getting older Old












*Technically, you are getting older quicker than me!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richyd wrote:
Pedant mode - the Jag is an auto, not a dual-clutch unit.


I was interested in that, especially as the photo in the "Find out more about..." section (scroll to the right) looks very much like the guts of a dual clutch box. So I downloaded the brochure - which says:

Quote:
F-TYPE’s Quickshift automatic transmission is both lightning-fast and superbly refined, offering the benefits of a double clutch transmission and a conventional automatic without the limitations of either. Eight closely-spaced ratios keep the engine within its most effective rev range for longer, providing instantaneous response and outstanding driver feedback, while also optimising the engine for both economy and outright performance.


Tiff seems to struggle with it a bit in the video, but that was the very first time he'd driven it. He certainly didn't like the paddles!

At least the sequential shift goes the right way!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Roro wrote:
It's alright for a Jag Bandit

Grin


Hey, we're* all getting older Old












*Technically, you are getting older quicker than me!


Yeh, but you're like, 60 or something.

I like the Jag but a manual would be way more fun PC

.... But... Lets not go there...
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
GT4 wrote:
Roro wrote:
It's alright for a Jag Bandit

Grin


Hey, we're* all getting older Old












*Technically, you are getting older quicker than me!


Yeh, but you're like, 60 or something.

I like the Jag but a manual would be way more fun PC

.... But... Lets not go there...



OK, here's the maths:

Q. Jimmy is 8 and 3/4s and Sally is 10.

One year later, how much quicker has Jimmy aged than Sally? [show your working]

A. In one year Jimmy will be 9.75 and Sally will be 11. Jimmy has grown older by 11.4% (9.75/8.75%-1) and Sally has grown older by 10% (11/10%-1)

The differential rate of aging of Jimmy versus Sally will be 1.4 percentage points or by 14% annualised rate (11.4/10%-1)

Ergo, Jimmy ages faster than Sally QED
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol!!

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