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Zingari
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1993 Porsche 964 Anniversary

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't have 8OY on one of them did you Dont know
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great looking car mate

I saw this in Strasse when I got mine from there, in fact I would have had it if my budget allowed!

Very pleased with mine though and echo your comments about Strasse.

Went through a similar process you describe when getting mine, looked at
996's and 7's but once I'd driven the 93 ... That was it.
Love the Z3, one of those that really grew on me years after they came out, they look fantastic

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jonttt
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
You didn't have 8OY on one of them did you Dont know


No never had 8OY. We got BOY1 from Lisa Stansfield. In fact I'm not sure if we still own it or not or if its on retention. Not seen it on one of the cars for a while.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hobbo wrote:
Great looking car mate

I saw this in Strasse when I got mine from there, in fact I would have had it if my budget allowed!

Very pleased with mine though and echo your comments about Strasse.

Went through a similar process you describe when getting mine, looked at
996's and 7's but once I'd driven the 93 ... That was it.
Love the Z3, one of those that really grew on me years after they came out, they look fantastic

Hobbo


Thanks Hobbo, good to hear from someone with experience of Strasse Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more sleep to go Very Happy

Could not resist a trip to my first OPC to collect some bits n bobs including the the "Big Ovals" in C4S offset.







The best part was my new PCGB membership gave me the 10% discount which has paid for itself already Thumb

So pick the car up tomorrow and a run planned on the way back to Liverpool.

I doubt I will get much detailing done this weekend as I'm still thawing out from Aintree yesterday and a trip to Cannes next week will mean any updates will have to wait a week or so.

Bonus was Strasse have told me they have replaced the front discs (voluntarily) as they were not happy with them. Good to see an indy prepping a car with customer service in mind.
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dommorton
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1998 Porsche 993 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch! What was the damage for those from the OPC?
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Dream911
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dommorton wrote:
Ouch! What was the damage for those from the OPC?


PCGB membership is £60 so guessing they cost him c£600. Dont know
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope they were as expensive as everywhere else but then I got 10% off so
It made them cheaper than anywhere else I could find.

They were c£200 each plus vat so I saved about £48 after vat. With some other bits n bobs I picked up I saved just over £60 with the 10% PCGB discount.

I learned a long time ago with BMW that its always worth checking main dealer prices especially on classic parts.

My first experience of an OPC (Chester) was very good, very friendly and they were sorry they could only do 10% off the big ovals. Other parts they told me they would try and do better so its always worth asking the question.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed I use OPC a lot for new parts too.

Just knew they would have been a bit pricey!

Good for you. These cars are worth spoiling Grin
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First I have to say a big thank you to SWMBO. I have enjoyed a true boys weekend Very Happy

Picked up my new toy Saturday, had a great run back from Leeds to Liverpool with no motorways, did a bit of quick tinkering, had an all night poker session, then spent today cleaning the interior and driving the new car. I'm now officially knackered but grinning from ear to ear Thumb

Saturday I managed to fit new wiper bladed. Nothing wrong with the old ones, I'm just OCD.....




I had picked up the bumper widget from OPC earlier this week....




The widget was a little too big to fit the wiper holes so I had to trim it to fit snugly....








Note: I need to refurbish the wiper arms

Unfortunately the rear wiper would not fit ie the wiper arm would not sit back on the window due to a longer/higher than OEM edge style. So I had to fit the OEM ones back on and will order a new one.

I then fitted clear lenses. I had heard that removing the side indicators is a bit of a pain but I found with the right trim tools it was pretty easy to remove them.




Then moved on to fit new remote batteries.....




Then I moved onto a full interior clean today....

It was great to see the original 1997 overmats still fitted.....




and then seat out to make the task easier.

It was very original underneath with the obligatory lost coins hiding.....








and it was nice to find an original item from the service history




Someone claimed the front seats before I could make a start cleaning them.




They were already pretty clean but always surprising how much ingrained dirt can be removed.....




After cleaning a couple of coats of leather treatment were absorbed and buffed up.






The seats have cleaned up really well. There is some very slight wear on the drivers entry side so I'll source some dye to match. I usually use a firm in Germany who can provide perfect matches for OEM german leather dyes so will get in touch with them.

All carpets and leather were cleaned and protected.













I love doing a clean like this to get to know a car. I knew this was a sound interior beforehand but having had it to pieces I now know why these cars are said to be made out of granite. The build quality and quality of materials really is top draw. For a 16 year old car with 64,000 miles on the clock to clean up so well is amazing. I have a small list of trim I will replace but to be honest I was scratching around for things that needed replacing. Even the original overmats have cleaned up like new. I love the fact that they are original and do not detract from the car at all. All I can say is well done Porsche. I guess I'mm too used to Ferrari trim coming off in my hand (I joke not!).

I then went for an afternoon blast on some of my favorite local B roads to get to know the car (after a can of red bull as I'd had 2 hours sleep Surprised )
I'll not bore you with all the reasons why, after all we all drive basically the same car (TT excepted) but I absolutely love it. I had to run a 8/10ths to get the new discs bedded in fully but that was probably a sensible things until I get used to the handling.

A couple if initial thoughts..... the steering is a lot heavier than I am used to. Again probably a result of todays supercars having much lighter steering characteristics. Its no bad thing but something I need to get used to. It will be interesting to see what effect the smaller diameter steering wheel I have ordered will have on this. The large wheel almost felt as if it got in the way a lot of the time on fast bends which was a reason a changed the similar diameter fixed wheel on the Z3. I hope as per the Z3 the smaller wheel will improve this. It is worth noting I'm over 6 feet and large build.

The gearshift is simply stunning. Again so much more fun compared to the new generation of auto boxes in the ferraris. Combined with the NA engine it has that sense of smooth brute aggression that more modern cars cannot replicate.

The OEM exhaust is too quite. I test drove a fair few cars with adapted exhaust systems and they sounded so much more in tune with the engines intent. Again I'm used to Ferrari's in race mode and the Race spec Eisenmanns on the Z3. I think I'll be ordering a set of RSR's to try.

I then had to swap cars to get my daily driver. The 993 will be spending its rest periods at my secure city centre underground parking. As I'm away next week it will be a couple of weeks before I can get to grips with detailing the exterior and engine bay, I can't wait.

I took the opportunity for some exterior shots on the way over. Please bear in mind there is c 200 miles of road grim and the light was pretty poor and no tripod so the pictures are not the best ......
















and with its stablemate.....






a great weekend bye
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1996 Porsche 993 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top drawer write up!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I managed to get hold of a Becker Cascade headunit of ebay today so thats another thing crossed off the list.

I have the same unit in my Z3m so have fitted one before. This one comes with the last / current v5 Maps and software CD so the added benefit is I can "upgrade" my other unit for free.

I have a few lazy questions as I've not had chance to research but:

- does the 993 use a standard ISO conenction block or will I need an adaptor to ISO ? Actually the car has a retrofit sony unit in so if it does need one its probably already fitted.

- My car has the upgraded sound system (I think) which I presume means amp and so I need to use pre outs from the becker ?

- Does the 993 have a GAL signal.

ps I've renamed this thread as its becoming more like a journal than an introduction.
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Tokyo Joe
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1996 Porsche 993 Turbo

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous Thumb

As part of the OCD you may want to consider fitting fog lamp/air ducts from Carnewal...
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jonttt
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Already on my radar Wink

The standard sidelight / fog light units are rather disapointing in appearance aren't they.

I just need to decide on which version to get. I've heard the OEM Turbo S ones are a better fit ?
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Tokyo Joe
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1996 Porsche 993 Turbo

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good and yes, they are disappointing to put it mildly.

I was not aware of the OEM Turbo S ones when I was looking and probably are a better fit.

If you do decide to source from Carnewal, be aware the bulbs are cheap Chinese versions and you'll need to fit better ones not long afterwards.

Either way, this mod makes the car look much better IMHO and I look forward to seeing the change to your baby Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:
Unfortunately the rear wiper would not fit ie the wiper arm would not sit back on the window due to a longer/higher than OEM edge style. So I had to fit the OEM ones back on and will order a new one.


No - you don't.

Take the PIAA blade and fit it into the OE frame.

Not difficult.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh so obvious when you put it that way Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had trouble sourcing electronic versions of the original Porsche UK brochures for my car (1997).

In any case I would always try to source originals for my cars records. I managed to source a brief sales flyer and comprehensive Exclusive / Tequipment options brochure from eBay.

So I thought it worthwhile scanning them in to share. They can be downloaded from the following links in PDF format.

Porsche Exclusive & Tequipment Brochure (UK 1997 986 & 993 & 996)

Porsche Model Brochure (UK 1997 986 & 993)

nb this covers 1997 models other than the 993 so may be of interest to other members of the forum.

The Exclusive / Tequipment Options is an interesting read if you have not seen it before.

Edit: as I build up my “collection” I started a separate library thread here:

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=82579
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Completely off-topic, I have witnessed security issues with Dropbox. i.e. loss of data.

The Dropbox solution is also of a type where you allow a section of your own PC to be accessed from the Internet - not a great idea.

Googledocs solution, which is all in the cloud, does not have such a security issue.


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Dream911
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

6 pages on and no one has mentioned ToreB's HID kit.

One of the best bang for buck mods available, in my mind. Added bonus of the Led spots in the fogs as well.

 
  
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