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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never really got to grips with the side repeaters.

I'm not an amber person especially on a car which is otherwise amber free so the first thing I did was change the OEM ambers to clears.

However after trying a few different ones they were either rubbish quality or did not fit perfectly plus I just never got the rectangular shape.

I think its commonly accepted that Porsche raided the VW parts bin to fit these indicators and the shape just never seemed to fit with the curves of the 993 no matter what colour the lens was.

So I decided to try aftermarket clear lens Oval items. To take it a step further I sourced the new multiple LED type which spread the light more evenly than the OEM single point bulb.

These are really cheap (c£10) , good quality and easy to fit.

The fit is by sticking on with the supplied 3M adhesive backing so they can be removed easily but not in a "on/off" fashion of the OEM units. However as LED bulbs last a lot longer this should not be a problem.

Not for the purists but an easy 5 minute reversion to OEM at any time and they are better quality and I think suit the 993's shape much better than the OEM units. I'm really pleased with how they look.

The spade type connector just pushes into the bulb holder instead of the normal bulb.....




and fitted in 5 minutes......








and they look much better when lit than the single point OEM/LED bulbs....


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a bit of a scare last night..........I was attending a black tie dinner and decided to take the 993 for a nice run ala James Bond style Very Happy

Just as I was hitting the motorway under heavy acceleration the radio cut off (Shirley bassey at her best ) and the instrument warnings lights started going crazy.

All sorts of thoughts going through my head, did I wire that stereo up properly, did I dislodge something putting it back, were the LED sight indicators melting but I thought the hard shoulder was no place to stop, what would James do Question so I panicked and slowed down in the inside lane ready for an emergency stop if needed.

5 miles of Shirley and full disco lights flashing I pulled into the infamous chorley services Surprised

By this time it was heavy rain Rolling Eyes

I quickly jumped into the passenger seat and removed the stereo, everything seemed fine. Put it all back and I thought I would start the car back up to see if I had miraculously cured the problem,.........nothing, car absolutely dead.

By this time middle of thunderstorm PC

So I sat there repeating the word ***** several times...... AA, phone call home, taxi for 1,........ What would James do.......... Car dead = check battery first.....thunderstorm, best dinner jacket shirt on PC

Gave it 5 min, no sign of rain stopping PC

So I ended up popping the bonnet and jumping out...... Then noticed the camper van parked in front of me and 2 kids staring out at me...... I was sooooo tempted to say "the names Bond........." But didn't Embarassed

Anyway imagine my relief when I realised the battery breaker I had fitted a month ago had simply worked loose. A few turns to re tighten, drop the bonnet and the engine fired up first time and no more symptoms Thumb

So I learned two things from the experience....

- what it's like to drive a car with no earth
- don't be a smart Alec and get changed in the hotel room when you get there Dont know Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ha ha nice story... very James bond when you fixed it in front of the kids... in black tie..... Cool
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car booked in for a remap on the 19th with Wayne from chip wizards at ninemeister Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The wayne remap is on my list of things to do. I have a very cheap ebay chip in my car and it made a really noticeable difference to the low speed tractability of my car. So much so that even though the rev limit is too low and clashes with the change up on the Tip box I just cannot bring myself to remove it.

I think you will be surprised at how much difference it makes.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will be interesting to see, he comes highly recommended.

I'm used to remapping BMW ///M series engines which are so highly tuned from the factory (c350HP from a 3.2 litre NA engine) that they are not about HP Gaines but more about drivability (and usually increased MPG Surprised )
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the approx cost of the remap and are they able to provide before and after measurements of your car ?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

£400 for a 4 wheel drive which is apparently a bit more than a 2 as there is more involved disengaging the 4 wheel drive system.

It's being done at ninemeister to use their dyno. I don't know the specifics as arranged via text messages but you would usually get before and after dyno readings.

Will be interesting to see the porsche process. With BMWs several after runs are needed whilst the remap adapts and you need to drive the car for a bit whilst it relearns your driving style.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesturday I had a good run over to the PCGB meet at Lotherton Hall in Leeds sponsored by Strasse and Malton.

I was one of the first to arrive (made good time on the motorway Wink), it got a lot lot busier than this over the next hour....










This car took my eye, gorgeous. POA but I overheard the salesman mention £80k Thumb




There was an "evolution" display of 911's through 50 years.....




but this one took my eye.....




I managed to have a good chat with the owner. I don't think he is on here but he's had it since it was 6 months old. It was a run out fully specced Tequipment car (full carbon interior, power upgrade, second oil cooler, colour coded wheels, etc.....). The only option it seemed not to have was the Turbo S scoops but I think its better for that. Sitting on 30k miles with original paint and no rust in sight...... you can't get a much better providence than that for a 993 Turbo.... stunning.

As always for a newbie it was great seeing so many 911's in one place. Some great cars but also a surprising number of low miles (<40k) cars showing rust Hand I guess people still think if they are low miles they can't rust and live by the old adage "its a summer car and never sees rain". I guess they wash them and put them back in the garage straight away Hand

I left early after a couple of hours with rain starting but that gave me extra time to get back via the Pennine B roads rather than motorway. I love driving B roads in wet weather as the roads are sooo much quieter and the 4 wheel drive / new suspension setup felt so secure through the bumps and twists.

All in all a perfect hobby day, bit of show Camera bit of go Drive

ps I actually used my rear wiper Surprised Even in heavy rain 3 swipes is far too many RedCard
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to mention that I fitted the new centre caps before going to Lotherton.

As per my previous post on eBay purchase, set of 4 brand new original 993 parts correct fitting / colour for WB hollow spoke turbo twists......

My original centre caps. x2 are fine but x2 need a slight refurb this being the worst.....




New set ready to go on...






Colour match is pretty spot on..........




I put the "pointy" end facing the valves, I assume that is the correct OCD fitment Dont know
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Jon your car looked great yesterday, had a quick nose around it whilst you were getting your ear bent by someone else, came back later but you were no where to be seen and then noticed you'd gone around 3ish when I left.

A good selection of 993's present, I ended up parked next to a Ruf fettled Arena Turbo with Fuchs wheels, looked nice but not as good as hollows in my eyes. Think there's a pic of it over on Pistonheads under the Lotherton Hall thread if anyone's interested.

There was also an arctic turbo along from your car with silly low miles, the interior looked brand new, the dash and doorcard leather looked fantastic. Seeing cars like this makes you appreciate how bang on they must have been fresh out of the box.

I bagged the usual SCOM we need your car letter, 993's are certainly good news at the moment, even overheard some 964'ers telling an enquiring gent that the 993 was the one everyone wants - high praise indeed Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep I had a good chat with the sales director from SCOM before he put the letters on all the 993s, they simply can't get enough nice ones to meet demand.

Pity we did not get chance to have a chat but not many 993ers stayed near their cars.

I saw the low miles turbo (c8k from memory) but cars like that don't really appeal to me. The 30k miler fully loaded one I photographed above was more my cup of tea.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:12 pm    Post subject: 993 Colour Coded Rear Single Piece Grill Reply with quote

One of the few things left on my "to-do" list for this year......... has turned out to be a thing of beauty Very Happy ....

Colour coded rear spoiler grill


I had been tempted by the 2S split grills which are designed to be painted and are available as an OEM option for all 993.

However I did not feel that the split grill actually complimented the shape of the 993's sweeping rear and it was in fact the colour coding that made them appealing to me.

I decided that the ideal option for me was to retain the wide one piece grill which helps to emphasise the wide rear of the 993 widebody 4S but colour coded and not the contrasting OEM black on a silver bodied car.

This is not without its problems (and maybe part of the reason why you don't see many colour coded one piece grills) due to the fact that these one piece grills where never designed for painting.

I approached a few bodyshops which were reluctant to carry out the work and the general opinion was that normal painting would not work and that the grill would have to be primed using specialist plastic paint. Even then it would require addiitonal layers of paint and laquer to cover the textured finish and which would make it both costly and without their standard paint warranties.

I therefore decided it would be a good DIY project Surprised

The first stage was to source a second grill as I wanted to retain the original under my remit of any changes to the car being reversible. Once again eBay was my friend and a second hand piece was purchased.






Luckily for me one of the oldest and biggest car paint suppliers is based 15 minutes from my office and on advice from them I used a plasticoat paint as an initial primer to prepare the surface for more traditional primer to be used....




This was applied in very thin layers until a good but thin surface covering was achieved...... part way through the process.....




Once that stage was completed more traditional primer, paint, laquer process was followed but instead of the normal 3-4 thin layers being applied at least double that was completed for each layer over a number of days to allow plenty of time for curing.....

pre laquer....




I completed the paint earlier this week and spent 1.5 hours today polishing, waxing and sealing the paint.

I am really pleased with the end result which is much better than I could have hoped for......










So the final stage will be to fit it and then time will tell if the paint will hold (it does feel and smell gorgeous though lol)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicely done, reminds me of


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That's the look I'm hoping for Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked my brother up today and had a run over to the classic car show at Tatton Park.

No Porsches Rolling Eyes (apart from one lonely 944) and no BMWs then the heavens opened after an hour so spent 3 hours in the pub for an extended lunch Thumb

By the time I dropped my brother off a lot of water had been put down but ironically I love driving in the rain and so I took the back roads back home which were a lot quieter than normal due to the weather.

Had a massive grin on my face. Still getting to know the car but its performance ticked all the boxes, the car just feels so planted, predictable and you can really get that power down remarkably well through even the wettest of bends. I know driving most turbo engined cars in such conditions just would not have been so much fun. To me these conditions are where a great NA engine really comes into its own in terms of predictability. I could find no signs at all of he infamous 911 rear end snap and where it did get the rear end to step out the 4 wheel drive gave so much confidence that it would pull things back into shape and really gave the confidence to not lift off as I would probably have to in my ///M. Great fun.

Ps the PIAA wiper blades whee faultless and I can see why they have had such great reviews. Absolutely no smearing even at speed in very heavy rain.

Who needs the sun for a great drive, give me a drivers car, a quite B road and some rain any day Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:44 am    Post subject: 993 Remap Reply with quote

Wayne Schofield (Chip Wizards) Remap

Location Ninemeister Dyno - Warrington

What a great day for a petrol head Very Happy

Wayne had been recommended by a number of people to me including Strasse where I bought the car from so a couple of weeks ago I contacted him. I was warned that he is very busy and it was best to contact him via text.
He is using Ninemeisters dyno at the moment which suits me as its closer than his usualy base around Rochdale. Plus I was hoping to see some 9M projects in the flesh Very Happy

The day started with me trying to find 9M Question I thought I knew exatcly where it was having been to the karting track it is next to but after doing a U turn in a cattery I eventually found it around the back Embarassed

Wayne was waiting for me when I got there and the first job was to convert my car to 2 wheel drive for the Dyno. Not as big a job as it sounds and 15 minutes to get it on a lift and driveshaft split near the gearbox and I had a 2 wheel drive car.

The car was then put on the dyno and setup ready.

Its worth noting that I'm familiar with Dynos and remapping but by no means an expert.

It became obvious pretty quickly that this was a true "live" remap and not just a pre written map dumped on a chip.

Part of the prep was to remove the OEM management system from the car (under passenger seat) and put an emulator in its place.

Normally I'm used to a before dyno being ran first for comparison but Wayne explained he preferred to run the OEM dyno at the end for comparison that way the final remap and OEM map are ran under almost identical conditions (engine/tyre temps etc....) Nice to hear. Thats why you will see the OEM graph as the last run later.

First run and Wayne new something was not right. Peak HP was c265HP and it died off significantly at c6000 revs. He immediately checked the Varioram system and saw that it was not holding pressure. In effect the variable valves where not kicking in at higher revs and so the engine was not producing max power.

Now varioram is a new system to me and so Wayne demonstrated how it should work. Basically the engine is adjusted at higher revs by a lever which is driven via an air pressurised system. This system also switches the engine heating input between internal / external sources via a shared solonoid and diaphram.

Wayne identified 2 faults with my car. Firstly the solonoid was not working but to compound the problem the diaphram was leaking. So the end result was the temperature side of the system was open and to cause failure the diaphram leak caused the system to lose pressure and not work.

Apparently the diaphram is not an uncommon failure but the solonoid is. The good news was that these are the easiest components of the system to replace as they are both exposed in the engine bay.

The solution for the dyno run was to simply remove the small inlet hose to the solonoid and bung it. This emulated the solonoid being in the closed position and meant the engine side of the system retained pressure and activated the lever adjusting the engine.

The pic below shows the parts but with a 2nd hand solonoid 9M found for me fitted before I left. Its been left without power so that it does not open until the diaphram on the temperature side of the system is replaced.




Once Wayne had that sorted he could get to work on remapping. He started with a map he had done previously on a 993 C4S but explained no 2 cars are the same and he would tailor the map to my car.

He spent c3 hours working his magic .........








and the end result in graph form with some notes....




So what does the graph mean in the real world. Well I have to try and seperate having a working varioram from not and then the remap. I am working on the basis the varioram not working affected power delivery over c5,000 revs and effectively meant I was down 20HP. So obviously I should feel a surge in power over 6,000 revs even without the remap. Well I do so its hard for me to know how much of the is ultimately the extra c15HP I have ie I definately notice the varioram kicking in more that perhaps I would the extra 15HP the remap has given me. So thats all good in its own right ie by simply running the dyno it identified a problem which is easy to fix with great rewards.

However just as big a revelation is the driveability of the car. This is for 2 reason.....

1) the "dead spot" on the torque curve from low revs which manifests itself in the real world by the engine being slow to pick up if you press on in say second gear ie a hesitation if you floor it whilst its in this dead zone rev range. The graph shows it clearly and that Wayne has completely removed it and actually turned it into a sweet spot. The car definately feels a lot more urgent in second gear.

2) in traffic driving the car is soooo much smoother. Prior to the remap my car used to "hunt" quite a bit at idle and was a little "lumpy" in traffic. I had actually put this down to a dirty Idle Control Valve (ICV) which is on my winter list of things to do. However Wayne explained to me that as the revs drop to idle the ignition (fueling) is switched off. As the revs drop fuel is applied just prior to the ICV stopping the car from stalling. This transition from no fuel to fuel and ICV kicking in causes the engine to feel "lumpy" in traffic. Wayne adjusts the point at which the fueling restarts to higher up the rev range so the transition is smoother. You can really feel the difference in traffic and the engine now does not "hunt" at all at idle.

So how would I sum the remap up.....

- Wayne is a top chap to talk to
- a live remap tailored to your car for £400 (I think its slightly cheaper for a 2 wheel drive as less setting up time) is a bargain
- the drive of the car is transformed. Albeit some down to fault correction but the improved driveability is all down to the remap

Would I recommend anyone with a 993 to let Wayne loose on it for a few hours, damn right I would Thumb

I am one happy camper but it really does beg the question why Porsche could not do this from the factory Dont know

ps I wonder how many variorams are out there with the varioram not working Dont know

For those who want to contact him, text +44 7874 328306. worship

oh and here is the original EPROM which would be a 10 min job to plug back in and convert back to OEM mapping at any time (stuck on sone foam backing) Bandit


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how about my day at NineMeister......

Well anyone who has read their project build threads on here and rennlist would know why I was hoping to see some projects and they did not disappoint.

However those eagle eyed of you may have noticed next to the dyno above was one of 26 (I think) RHD 993 turbo S. My very first one in the flesh Very Happy




However Surprised ......




scratch one 993 Turbo S Sad

a 50,000 mile minter Sad

The story........ guesswork from damage, clipped nearside front wheel (chunk out of alloy) resulting in head on with an immovable object. Some force as the gearbox was cracked and sunroof popped.

However the guys reckoned it had been salvageable but the job had been started and botched by someone. Story was the owner had been paid out c£110,000 and wanted to buy it back. Garage started work and realised it was a bigger job than they perhaps first thought and costs esculated probably to the point they pi$$ed off the assessor and he threw his toys out. End result is 9M are stripping it but have to return the chassis for destruction PC

So there was a nice pile of as new full leather sports seats (heated) and trim on the floor destined for America. They had only got the car in a day or so before so interior was still being stripped. Full interior carbon was still in place...




What a sad sight but good to know the driver was OK

I think its fair to say that 3 hours of intensive inspection by me I know my turbo S's inside out now. It was an interesting side by side comparison as it was exactly the same colour spec as mine (arctic silver with midnight blue interior). For example the door speaker grills are slightly different and it had blue knobs / heater unit whereas mine are black. It made me realise that mine really is two tone in comparison.

Oh and the engine is destined for a GT2 replica, the shell was next door Thumb
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berni29
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Thank you very much for taking the time to do his write up. A visit to Wayne is on my list for sure. I have a cheap generic chip in my car and it made a significant improvement to the drivability of the car at low speed, but it is not the same sort of thing as a proper remap.

Berni
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Herer
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1996 Porsche 993 Targa

PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pleased to hear you had as good a day as i did there ; seeing all the stuff 9m are doing, talking to Wayne as he's a really top bloke, and then drive away with an even sweeter 993. thumbsup
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