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jonttt
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, I was going to do some gardening today, honest. But after I washed the car (well it looked like it might rain) it rained so I could not do any gardening Very Happy . SWMBO not impressed.

So I did the only sensible thing whilst she took our 3 year old swimming, I tinkered with some interior bits n pieces on the car Very Happy

The leather gearstick was not really worn but the leather was showing its age in the sense of being very smooth with absorbed dirt and oils etc.....

Replacements are c£150 but I did not need to replace it all, just the leather. So I sourced a leather replacement and set about fitting that.....

I decided to go for black rather than the original midnight blue as I thought it would look better (I will be fitting a black steering wheel as well).

The original with bottom retaining band released






You have to remove a secondary metal securing clip of the gearstick shaft itself and then the top of the gear stick just pulls off.






Then use a blunt knife to remove the cap






and pull the old leather off




The replacement leather




Pull it over the gear stick until there is an overlap






and then tuck it in




You need to rescue the original retaining ring from the bottom of the old leather to reuse




and the finished result when all back together which I am really please with. The leather will "bed in" with use.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: 993 Reply with quote

Bieldside wrote:
I feel totally inadequate reading this

I have had my 9934S for over 10 years and only put petrol in it and wash and polish it

Jonttt has only had his for 10 minutes and rebuilt it

Please stop !!
know how you feel Gorden,but some things(FOR ME),are best left as nature intended. Thumb
 



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original porsche Becker units look great. Much better than any none Becker aftermarket units I've seen. I would have gone back to oem but need handfree as I live on my mobile. I also tend to listen to my ipod more than the radio to get me in the right "mood" for a spirited run.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:03 pm    Post subject: 993 Reply with quote

Just washed the Turbo S

Will stick in the garage this week and get out the 9934S - unmolested as if I tried anything like Jonttt nothing would work afterwards

So I just leave well alone but I have to admire someone who can tweak cars

Keep it going - amazing stuff!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that it matters much jonttt but the Sony head unit isn't strictly aftermarket as it was original dealer fit. I've kept mine because it was originally supplied with the car and is on the original invoice - but it is carp Thumb

Never use the wireless in the car anyway... Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 993 Reply with quote

Bieldside wrote:
I feel totally inadequate reading this

I have had my 9934S for over 10 years and only put petrol in it and wash and polish it

Jonttt has only had his for 10 minutes and rebuilt it

Please stop !!


I knew he was going to be like this after his first ever post. Son of Jackal.

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jonttt
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow I never knew that, I've got so much to learn about these cars it's great. I know every fact and stat about the Z3m's I needed a new challenge.

I guess I should get mine out of the bin now Smile

So the black box speaker cable bypass may have been a dealer fit? I wonder why they did not just move the amp trigger which would have been so much easier.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:
So the black box speaker cable bypass may have been a dealer fit? I wonder why they did not just move the amp trigger which would have been so much easier.


No idea but I have the cassette head unit Thumb but with a 6 CD changer - again fitment by the dealer. However, I had a look under the front boot carpet today (whilst checking my suspension top mounts) and the wiring is a complete mess! In some places they've used three times the length of cable required and just looped it and cable-tied it. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: Becker Cascade Install Reply with quote

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I had the exact same black box when I tried to removed the aftermarket headunit (Kenwood IIRC).





So I guess it was the common part used to bypass the Nokia amp when aftermarket headunit was fitted.
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jonttt
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep it looks as if the black box was a readily available part used by dealers and maybe aftermarket installers. At least it means there is some consistency.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The one downside with Becker pulling out of making these is the lack of ongoing support. However you can update the units to the last V5.2 system software (which I have done) and this allows you to load current BMW maps (I have 2012 maps on at the moment but will be updating to 2013 next week). Its a bit of an art in doing it but once you know how its easy. I'll post up more on that next week.


Jon - I will keep an eye on this, as I too have a Cascade Pro, which I'm a big fan of. It works so damn well with the 993 speakers, and looks as if it was fitted on the production line.

Quick question - How much do you control your phone through it..?? - Do you use the voice recognition stuff for dially, or do what I do, and dial from the phone and then speak through the Becker hands-free..?? I know there is a lot of control options with the Becker, but I'm hardly using any of them...

Oh, and I've put my tunes on an SD card and not through an i-pod - wish I'd gone i-pod now as it's a faff having my music on PC and Apple platforms (have an i-phone), but the SD card option works amazingly well.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richyd wrote:


Jon - I will keep an eye on this, as I too have a Cascade Pro, which I'm a big fan of. It works so damn well with the 993 speakers, and looks as if it was fitted on the production line.



The Cascade pro is a great unit. I use my iphone via bluetooth and also have a cheap sim card in the head unit which I use purely for international calling.

Haven`t got around to setting up the voice commands but it looked easy enough
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have the Pro version. I believe the difference is the SD card slot and sim card slot.

The Ipod interface is brilliant. I now have 3 old ipods in each of my cars (my merc command system is Becker based and has ipod intregration built in). I have them all on the same playlist in iTunes so I just plug them into my computer a couple of times a year and all my cars have the same tracks on.

The interface will just plug straight into the Pro but you need to rewire the microphone wires as they share the same plug socket at the back of the headunit. You used to be able to pick the kit up for c£75 but they seem hard to get hold of now (there are copies but the originals offer much more functionality). I had to pay c£100 from German eBay.

Re hands free I don't use voice control at all. You can bluetooth over your address book from the phone (I'm not sure if this was a version 5.2 software upgrade as I can't remember the option before) and I also setup my regular numbers as shortcuts. If I'm driving I use the cascade address menu to search but if I can pull over it is easier/quicker to use the phone to find the contact and make the call.

I would love to here the original Becker unit that was in my car from factory as I believe it is actually a rebadged Becker Traffic Pro. I bet this would have been much better quality than the Sony unit that was fitted when I bought it so effectively someone at some point downgraded the head unit Question
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ps if anyone wants to upgrade to the last Becker v5.2 system software and maps (either 2009 becker maps or later 2012 BMW maps) pm me and I'll tell you how. Its very easy to do Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a choice today.

Spend the afternoon fiddling with the 993 and get the replacement alarm board fitted or take it on a run over to Llandudno for Porsche's on the Prom PCGB day........Question

yep I took it for a run Hand

weather was no brilliant, in fact it erm.... cold but it stayed dry until mid afternoon.

I tagged onto a convoy of about 20 Porsche's on the A55 which was a great way to arrive.

Had a few good chats to some 993/996 owners but I don't think I bumped into anyone from here Sad

Sadly I had to leave early to get back to Liverpool but by then it had started raining anyway Rolling Eyes

Great turnout given the weather with over 100 cars lined up


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have made the run but work commitments got in the way PC
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang on a tick ...


It rained?

And some of it landed on your car!?


How did you reshape the melty bits? Grin
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after my failed attempt to swap the new alarm board into the car last week HERE the correct tool arrived to remove the security screws.

RSS Online

A job is a lot easier with the correct tools PC

Correct driver from RSS online at c£20 delivered Mad






Once the passenger seat was removed (again) and alarm case released (again) it left the 4 philips screws (again) and 2 security screws that halted proceeding last week to be removed (only the centre top and bottom security screws need to be removed).




The board then slips out of the case. note that the board was a very snug fit into the retaining grooves so I had to remove the cabling first and then work the board out of the case.

Its also worth noting that I left the battery connected and removed the 2 small power plugs first. To be ultra PC you should always disconnect the battery before working on electrics but I didn't see any practical issues in leaving it connected so long as power is removed from the board first and connected back last.

The original board removed and cables disconnected




It was interesting to note that the board is dated the day before the car was first registered which I found surprising. I assumed the alarm system were all fitted to cars on arrival in the UK ie at the same place (so far as I know the system fitted to UK cars was unique to the UK and not fitted at the factory). Fitting the day before registration implies the systems were fitted by OPC's themselves just prior to registration?




Original '97 board on the left, new board on the right. Again its worth noting that the new board is dated 2013 implying that these are not old stock but new boards that have been made up ? There are some differences in the boards when comparing like for like.




Again it is worth noting that there are 4 jumper switches which should all be on the OFF position. Its easy to knock these whilst fitting the board so check them before closing the protective case. To add confusion OFF on the original board is all DOWN but OFF on the new board is all UP Rolling Eyes




Its then a matter of fitting the board 2/3 the way into the protective case. Again it is a very tight fit as the board seems slightly too wide for the groves that retain it in the case but with patience it will slide back in (some force is needed so be careful !).

When the board is 2/3 back in the 5 cables can be fitted. Fit the power cables (smaller ones on the left front of the board) last.

Before fitting the cover test it all works.

One of my controls worked first time but the second had to be programmed using the new red master fob. I think this is because I ordered the 2nd fob which was extra and only one is factory programmed to the board.

Once you are sure its all working then fit everything back together.

I now have 2 brand new sets of keys and fobs.




I just need to get some new stickers made up for the front of the new alarm fobs with the Porsche logo on Very Happy

as an added bonus I found the 2nd alarm siren disable key under the carpet edge. As these are no longer available and I could not source a locksmith with suitable keys blanks to cut a spare this was a real bonus and a reward for doing this job almost twice Grin
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ballcock wrote:
Hang on a tick ...


It rained?

And some of it landed on your car!?


How did you reshape the melty bits? Grin


lol I like my cars mint but I also like to drive them. Therefore I do not worry about the odd stone chip or getting them dirty. I just make sure they are cleaned after Hand

This is my Z3m after a fast west coast to east coast run over the Pennines and through the Yorkshire Dales




and this is the car the day after ready for a BMW show........




I find if a car is well maintained it is far easier to clean, the mud just fell of it Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you got the PA1000 sorted in the end Thumb
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