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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chimp911 wrote:
Why not get a PDK sports wheel instead? Ok so it's clad in leather rather than alcantara, nor will it have the coloured top centre line, but is nonetheless very similar... Question


The wheel design is called "SportDesign" and is available with or without paddles (ie manual or PDK) and for PDK, with or without Launch Control (SportChrono) confirmation lighting.

SportDesign wheel ex-PDK is circa £1,200



or just buy new SportDesign rim and reuse your current airbag, squib ring and horn push (circa £900):

 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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chimp911 wrote:
Why not get a PDK sports wheel instead? Ok so it's clad in leather rather than alcantara, nor will it have the coloured top centre line, but is nonetheless very similar... Question


The wheel design is called "SportDesign" and is available with or without paddles (ie manual or PDK) and for PDK, with or without Launch Control (SportChrono) confirmation lighting.

SportDesign wheel ex-PDK is circa £1,200



or just buy new SportDesign rim and reuse your current airbag, squib ring and horn push (circa £900):



That's a seriously nice steering wheel... Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spoke to Hatfield about this wheel on Friday, 1600 inc VAT. Price is for the wheel itself and the airbag module. PCGB membership will apparently only give me 5% off (I was hoping for 10%, but apparently the higher discount is only for the faster turnover parts not special tequipment parts like this).

Interestingly though they weren't able to confirm that this 7.2 wheel will fit my 7.1. They said they'll speak to Porsche and call me back to confirm. Dont know

I was also told that the airbag from my wheel wouldn't fit as the dimensions are different... would be nice to know whether that is true or not.... I feel a trip to an OPC showroom with a tape measure is on the horizon...

Ideally I'd like to buy this wheel and re-trim it in red/black alcantara and thicken up the dimensions to make it more chunky.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to close off the steering wheel thing - the Americans kindly put all of the various GT3/GTS options here http://www.suncoastparts.com/category/2010gt3_steering.html

Convert to £ and add VAT to get roughly what you should be expecting to pay over here.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thumbsup

I've emailed them. Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check this out...

http://www.ferdinandmagazine.com/pdk-only-porsche-991-gt3-demand-three-pedal-997

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick w wrote:
Check this out...

http://www.ferdinandmagazine.com/pdk-only-porsche-991-gt3-demand-three-pedal-997

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Good article Thumb

The more I think about it the more I reckon Porsche are in danger of losing their core (current) market for the GT3. Current buyers I think generally want a light, direct, basic-ish, relatively cost effective 911 that is track focused. Motorsport heritage through the engine is obviously very important too as it adds kudos and halo factor.

... I've just watched the Preuninger interview again and the new car is just ... Too much... Everything... Heavier, bigger, more technology, more complicated, more expensive to buy and will be more expensive to maintain especially if tracked. I mean 4 wheel steer? 20" wheels?? Not to mention the electric steering and PDK and all the other stuff I don't understand. I think the GT3 has entered it's Fat Elvis period. It's gone all Las Vegas on us.

(I'm clearly the world authority on this topic now, y'know, being a current GT3 owner and having done.... Ooooh, 2, trackdays ... Floor )
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always better to have a spare hand, rather than having the exertion of stirring a gear lever.

 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thought the 996 would be found slumped on the throne, but the success of the GTs that followed would prove otherwise - it'll be quite some time before 911 has left the building...

I'd put a small wager on seeing a clutch pedal appearing on a PDK'd RS... Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chimp911 wrote:
Many thought the 996 would be found slumped on the throne, but the success of the GTs that followed would prove otherwise - it'll be quite some time before 911 has left the building...

I'd put a small wager on seeing a clutch pedal appearing on a PDK'd RS... Question


Nice idea, and no doubt a popular one too...unless the RS had a big power
hike + weight reductions the cooking GT3 would be a fair bit quicker... Wink

..and not to mention the humungous costs in re-tooling for a manual
box..etc. I understood that Porsche did investigate both options, and
it was apparently deliberated for a good while...PDK v Manual, and PDK
won out... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking more as an alternative to holding both paddles to disengage the clutch? It wouldn't require any further mods to the box itself, just gives the driver a different control point, albeit clutch-by-wire rather than direct mechanical control...
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.... PDK with a clutch... Confused

Chimp, please STEP AWAAAY from the keyboard Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...Erm but isn't that what the the new GT3 PDK has anyway Confused

Pulling both paddles simultaneously on the new PDK disengages the clutch, so logically one could envisage a new pedal in the footwell (for arguments sake let's call it a clutch pedal), enabling the same functionality of pulling both paddles...
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant/should have said "clutch pedal" in my earlier post..... That would just be crazy though! Having 3 pedals, a gear lever, AND flappys?! Complete overload... Be more like flying a chopper than driving a car!!?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, the only thing Porsche didn't add to the new "Fat Elvis" GT3 - an extra steering wheel for the passenger Floor
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...Well it might be a ''fat Elvis''....but it has GT2 acceleration.. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... Don't get me wrong.... Fat Elvis had his moments.... worship Cool


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That wasnt the Fat Elvis, tha was the man at the top of his game.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... That's kind of my point... Very Happy

Fat Elvis was the 70's wasn't it? When he started getting big and bloated, but was still able to perform for a while... Then it was all downhill not long after this...
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