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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mezgers in the RSR's and Cup's eh.

"It is very reliable and strong and it does a good job and in the Cup it will be 3.8 litres. It was an easy decision."

What does this say about the 3.8 DFI then?


Translated: "Our new engines are good, but we'll use the old one as they are still very good"

Time will tell if the DFI is better than the Mezger ones....

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If I was shelling out +£100k I'd need to know its engine is bullet proof and fully tested in all conditions and not a "definate maybe"

IMO, Porsche are sending out the wrong message by having the Cups and RSR's on alternative technologies.

"Use/deploy what you sell".......clearly not(yet)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love it!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I was shelling out +£100k I'd need to know its engine is bullet proof and fully tested in all conditions and not a "definate maybe


Best stay away from any Ferrari, Aston Martin, Bentley.....


So that 991 Cup race car... Metzger engine, 6 speed, none of the gizmo's...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wizard993 wrote:

If I was shelling out +£100k I'd need to know its engine is bullet proof and fully tested in all conditions and not a "definate maybe


Best stay away from any Ferrari, Aston Martin, Bentley.....


So that 991 Cup race car... Metzger engine, 6 speed, none of the gizmo's...


I thought Bentley had achieved excellent reliability with the GT Dont know
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am glad to see rad mesh is fitted as standard Thumb

For everyone wanting the perfect GT3 (or at least the newest), this will render the 997 predecessors old hat and result in crushing market dumping of the old guard.

This is a good thing, as I want an imperfect 997.1 3.6 GT3 Cloud 9

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets be honest - theyve smashed it (IMHO)

And the press stuff had to be a Guards Red car didn't it worship

I still think 997 GT3 (prices) will hold up though, for old times sake. Theres not going to be many 991 GT3 and they will be super pricey for a few years.

Be interesting to see if there a speculators and some come straight out into the market
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are the cups and rsrs(you know those track/race focused ones) going down a different route?

Anyone?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like an amazing piece of kit and exceptional value compared to Ferrari and Lambo's (ignoring the GTR).

I can completely understand why they have gone down the PDK route, will make it very easy to drive and is the first GT3 you (or the Mrs) can drive every day to and from work (including in central London).

However for me the GT3 is a car I use at the weekend or take on holiday. Having recently bought the Mrs a TTS and driven audi's semi auto box, we both realised we prefer to drive a manual car. For me, the semi auto took some of the fun away from the driving experience, I love the fact the GT3 has a heavy clutch, notchy gearbox and scapes over speed bumps, however I am not normal.

Great bit of kit, well done Porsche!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ferdinandmagazine.com/porsche-911-991-gt3-pdk-manual-transmission

Will the 997 GT3 RS or(4.0) ultimately become the best 911 drivers car of all time? now that Porsche have gone down another route with the 991 GT3. If anyone has a good 997 GT3/RS they should think carefully before selling it.

The new GT3 will be a great 2wd sports car but its got a rather different persona to the Porsche GT/RS and the historical bloodline.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clarkey wrote:

I still think 997 GT3 (prices) will hold up though, for old times sake. Theres not going to be many 991 GT3 and they will be super pricey for a few years.



I agree. This looks awesome but there will be huge demand for it and given the price it'll be a long time before it depreciates down to a level that will upset the 997 models.


I'm not 100% sold on the look of the back end but that wing looks great compared to the one on the test cars.


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Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h (0 - 62 mph) 3.5 s
Acceleration from 0 - 160 km/h (0 - 99 mph) 7.5 s


Surprised Surprised


The new turbo is going to have to be under 3 seconds to avoid being considered slow isn't it? Smile Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clarkey wrote:

I still think 997 GT3 (prices) will hold up though, for old times sake. Theres not going to be many 991 GT3 and they will be super pricey for a few years.



I agree. This looks awesome but there will be huge demand for it and given the price it'll be a long time before it depreciates down to a level that will upset the 997 models.


I'm not 100% sold on the look of the back end but that wing looks great compared to the one on the test cars.


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Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h (0 - 62 mph) 3.5 s
Acceleration from 0 - 160 km/h (0 - 99 mph) 7.5 s


Surprised Surprised


The new turbo is going to have to be under 3 seconds to avoid being considered slow isn't it? Smile Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The new turbo is going to have to be under 3 seconds to avoid being considered slow isn't it? Smile Smile


The old one already is... Bandit

Still a valid point though - with pdk equipped gt3s invading their performance territory the new turbo has a some very impressive numbers to beat...can't wait to see what they come up with food food

I think the new GT3 looks fantastic and on paper at least should be epic - I'll reserve final judgement until I've seen it in the flesh but so far so good...Thumb
 
  
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Hmmm new Turbo or GT3........
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chimp911 wrote:
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The new turbo is going to have to be under 3 seconds to avoid being considered slow isn't it? Smile Smile


The old one already is... Bandit



I knew the Turbo S was under 3s, I didn't realise the 997.2 turbo was as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the betting that you wont get much change out of £120k for a new 991 Turbo Coupe.
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I knew the Turbo S was under 3s, I didn't realise the 997.2 turbo was as well.

MC


I should have said turbo s Embarassed the non-s turbo may be just the wrong side of 3 seconds...
 
  
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Whats the betting that you wont get much change out of £120k for a new 991 Turbo Coupe.


997 Turbo s without options was close to £125k (before discounts) so I'd think it could be even more...
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chimp911 wrote:
MisterCorn wrote:

I knew the Turbo S was under 3s, I didn't realise the 997.2 turbo was as well.

MC


I should have said turbo s Embarassed the non-s turbo may be just the wrong side of 3 seconds...



Yep, aka slow Very Happy



My prediction for the new Turbo charged cars:

Turbo 2.9 seconds
GT2 2.8
Turbo S 2.7

All PDK of course, and that's assuming they make a GT2, it's always been a bit of an awkward fit into the lineup but even more so now with the GT3 being so quick and the Turbo approaching the speed of light.
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Nice looking piece of kit with well scripted brochure words, however for £120K (who is going to buy a base model) I have to ask what else can you buy? Dont know
 
  
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