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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:00 am    Post subject: AutoExpress pitches 911 [991] Carrera 4S v Audi R8 Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say for a 6 year old design versus a brand-new one, the R8 does remarkably well. I think the 991 will find life tough when the new R8 is released later this year.......

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maxie wrote:
I have to say for a 6 year old design versus a brand-new one, the R8 does remarkably well. I think the 991 will find life tough when the new R8 is released later this year.......

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+1 the new car (out next year) will be a match for the 991 GT3 I'd say?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have to say for a 6 year old design versus a brand-new one, the R8 does remarkably well. I think the 991 will find life tough when the new R8 is released later this year.......

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a shot in the R8 at the "6th Gear" experience in York September last year along with Lambo V10. The R8 was a good car to chuck around and I can imagine the latest release model will only get better.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: AutoExpress pitches 911 [991] Carrera 4S v Audi R8 Reply with quote

Am fortunate enough to have a 2009 R8 V8 and a 2009 997 C4S in the garage, so although not the latest models, maybe allow me to draw some useful comparisons.

Acceleration, performance, steering and grip essentially the same on both cars. Suspension behaviour better (less bouncy) on the 911. Fuel consumption is at least 25% better on the 911 for any given route. Service and running costs are very similar. Both cars are extremely competent as daily drives. Both always force the mega grin factor every time I go near them. Grin

Biggest single differrence between the cars is not the cars themselves, but the aftersales service through the dealer network. Porsche has got this nailed, whereas Audi struggle to understand how to support and satisfy the customer base. In this market segement, absolutely key IMO to understand what the customer expects. The Porsche heritage and 50 years of evolution shine through in this respect! worship

If I had to opt for a new 991 C4S or the latest R8 V8, where would my money go? Have driven both, so performance is still close and still the same gap in suspension performance to the 991's advantage. PDK trounces the new R8 S-tronic gearbox. Porsche have now moved ahead of Audi on the interior appointments and finish. Importantly, the value for money aspect comes into play - a fully specced 991 for me would come in at £104K, a fully specced R8 V8 for me would be £115K. For this money, could have a well specced 991 GT3, which on paper at least would beat the latest R8 V8 by a useful margin. So, a no brainer, 991 it would have to be. thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: AutoExpress pitches 911 [991] Carrera 4S v Audi R8 Reply with quote

DRZ911 wrote:
Am fortunate enough to have a 2009 R8 V8 and a 2009 997 C4S in the garage, so although not the latest models, maybe allow me to draw some useful comparisons.

Acceleration, performance, steering and grip essentially the same on both cars. Suspension behaviour better (less bouncy) on the 911. Fuel consumption is at least 25% better on the 911 for any given route. Service and running costs are very similar. Both cars are extremely competent as daily drives. Both always force the mega grin factor every time I go near them. Grin

Biggest single differrence between the cars is not the cars themselves, but the aftersales service through the dealer network. Porsche has got this nailed, whereas Audi struggle to understand how to support and satisfy the customer base. In this market segement, absolutely key IMO to understand what the customer expects. The Porsche heritage and 50 years of evolution shine through in this respect! worship

If I had to opt for a new 991 C4S or the latest R8 V8, where would my money go? Have driven both, so performance is still close and still the same gap in suspension performance to the 991's advantage. PDK trounces the new R8 S-tronic gearbox. Porsche have now moved ahead of Audi on the interior appointments and finish. Importantly, the value for money aspect comes into play - a fully specced 991 for me would come in at £104K, a fully specced R8 V8 for me would be £115K. For this money, could have a well specced 991 GT3, which on paper at least would beat the latest R8 V8 by a useful margin. So, a no brainer, 991 it would have to be. thumbsup


Interesting you say the PDK beats the s-tronic. I'm going for a test drive soon with the dual clutch audi to see what its like
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: AutoExpress pitches 911 [991] Carrera 4S v Audi R8 Reply with quote

dipesh.tank wrote:
Interesting you say the PDK beats the s-tronic. I'm going for a test drive soon with the dual clutch audi to see what its like


Dipesh.tank, have tried both the R8 V8 and R8 V10 plus with S-tronic. Even with the extra 00mph of the V10, in 'Normal' and 'Sport' modes, the S-tronic is simlar to the 'Normal' and 'Sport' modes for PDK. However, the PDK's ace up the sleeve is that the shift strategy for 'Sport Plus' is absolutely frenetic and blood curdling compared to the R8 in 'Sport' mode. Make sure the dealer takes you somewhere where you can fully access what S-tronic has to offer - enjoy! Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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