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tp81
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:40 pm    Post subject: I have a real desire for an early 911 - just cant afford it! Reply with quote

I don't think there is anything nicer than the early shape. No idea how they drive but absolutely beautiful to look at.

Dream cars.
























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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes couldn't agree more. There's one on the Silverstone auction site: 911L SWB. Looks lovely, as you said though not sure what it'd be like to drive. I've had a few classics (Ferrari, Merc) and whilst they are great in many ways they need to be your 2nd or 3rd car due to lack of power, rain, salty roads etc. Should hold its value though.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like the early ones be sure to get yourself down to the 'Classics at the Castle' at Castle Hedingham, Essex in September, it's specifically for pre '73. We go every year and it's stunning, the purity of the early cars is beautiful. I bet they're not so great to drive but I could stare at them all day!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused You "can't afford it" Question

From reading many of your previous posts* I'm sure that you could afford to buy one if you chose to.

*eg >>
http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=79308&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Personally I see any car of that era as a beautiful ornament or as a piece of art in the same way as many behold things such as paintings, sculptures and watches. I'd pay a lot more for an old 911 than any of the other things that I've mentioned but that's not relevant because I can't afford it.

I can never see why people don't fulfil their dreams as soon as their circumstances allow them to. I was reading the other day that Michael MacIntyre has always dreamed of owning a Ferrari but still doesn't. I'm certain that I'd only need a fraction of his millions to buy one but then I'd probably not bother buying a £3.5M house.

Go on, go for it .......... it might even prove to be an investment. Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do they drive? Awful nooo I had a 1969 911T and in the wet it was terrible.

I'd have to have a PS edition based on a decent (964) chassis Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari,

Interesting to hear that the t was awful in the wet. I really need to have a drive and get a feel for the cars. I have driven a couple of 912's which was a whole other ball game.

Currently looking at importing a 912 as a project car to sort and restore cosmetically and hopefully add some value and learn the ins and outs along the way.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got @£35k to spunk away and cannot decide on a 1970s 911 or a 964 or 993 (again)....I can't sleep at nights.

Falling in love with this one...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1970-Porsche-911T-2-2L-/290841851833?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43b78677b9

What is the difference in an S and a T Question
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out DDK, excellent site. Forum members very helpful similar to 911uk. Even post up the advert, someone will likely respond with advice, what to look for maybe even some knowledge of the car.
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1993 Porsche 964 Anniversary

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Discord23 wrote:
I've got @£35k to spunk away and cannot decide on a 1970s 911 or a 964 or 993 (again)....I can't sleep at nights.



Tough call. Ask yourself this can you put up with basic driving assistance - No PAS, AC, poor heat/ventilation twitchy (antique) handling in the wet and a sorted one has you checking the weather forecast before you decide to take it out Hand These are cars for purists.

I've seen a few early 911 at ~£15k which leaves plenty to then restore and whilst you are likely to get your money back it will spend most of its life in the garage under a cover.

It's cycle of use sounds a bit like my 993 which prompted me to sell it, and then I go out and buy a 964. Go figure Confused

You've had a 993 before so why another? 964 gives you the more authentic shape with some creature comforts PC
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you not think about a back dated 3.2 , here is a 1987 car backdated to 911s / i think the back dated cars look so much better than the original 70s cars as you get more width at the back , isn't this a lovely car .
Heres a link to the site were you can see much more about them . Keith
http://www.early911.co.uk/html/3_2-backdate.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice back date but then they spoil it by putting the wrong mirrors on nooo
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42rozFAQj4k






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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That black car is absolutely beautiful , i would even say its the best 911 i have ever seen , just got to get me one of them , i am now on a mission .
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this at Nick Moss he did have a 1988 blue backdate recently on ebay.

st is nice though http://www.early911.co.uk/html/sales.html
 



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tp81 wrote:
Love this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42rozFAQj4k





+1 love it worship
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
How do they drive? Awful nooo I had a 1969 911T and in the wet it was terrible.

I'd have to have a PS edition based on a decent (964) chassis Thumb


bollox .. they don't drive awful

They are old cars & how they drive depends on condition , set up etc . There is a reason '73 2.7RS careeras regularly come top of the Porsche comparison reviews when pitted against newer Porsche's

Out of all the cars I've had , non Porsche & Porsche , I would still choose my '73 2.4S for a blast out into the hills, or for a long distance trip into Europe.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They drive beautifully - no power steering but given how light they are, and on 185 section tyres, the are light and tactile. Best 911 helm ever.
But they need be in good condition and well set up - like all 911s a shed drives like a shed.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick update, I have finally bit the bullet and my new car will be arriving on Saturday. Italian delivered 1970 911T 2.2 Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've done it Thumb well done , looks lovely and hope you enjoy it , roll on Saturday , lets know how it feels to drive.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a teasing photo! Looks the dogs!

Keith, fetch your angle grinder along on the weekend and you can back date mine Thumb

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