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Marky911
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GMG wrote:


You genuinely can't lose...



Ah jeez!

We are all different I guess.
 
  
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BillCoupe98
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When your wife only drives automatics you have to make the most of what you have, how else do you get back from the pub
 



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996mike
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first time I drove a 911 it was a friends 996.2 C2 manual
After 10 mins I knew I had to get a 911

Test drove some manuals and tips but bought a Tip it for me is the best of both worlds in traffic effortless in M exciting with almost instantaneous gear changes

Never been a fan of the buttons but the paddle shift conversion is on my
Wish list
 
  
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Lukec4s
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my c4s last year having previously owned a e93 dct m3. I was convinced auto was the only way for all my cars. I actually bought an auto c4s which I owned for a week before sending back to the dealer for unrealed issues. Re the auto I found it sluggish and not as responsive as I would have liked. (Most likely coming from a dct) i then bought a manual which to me
Personally feels a lot better and pushes more. Obv sitting in traffic with a foot on the clutch is a downside lol..

I have heard the pdk is much better but was out of my price range for a c4s
 
  
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greenson
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a well balanced thread of the pros a and cons of Tip and manual , I have a tip C4S and have developed a technique of blipping the throttle when approaching a bend or a roundabout to to fool the box into thinking I wish to kick down and hey presto she drops a gear just by my blip of the pedal ,! Only needs a quick stab and she drops a gear . Try it in a road your u are familiar with but don't be gentle when you try it at first it's takes some getting used to but the rewards are worth practise
 
  
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GMG
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...good tip,I will try this next time I'm out in it...
 
  
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greenson
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a go , i find it works better going from 5th to 4th and 4th to 3rd , but brake a tad first then give the throttle a big stab ..... But like the old heel toe technique
Let's hear how you get on
 
  
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Dammit
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For my 911 I'd only have a manual, for my "sensible estate car" I only wanted an auto. I believe I ended up with (although I'm a little confused on this point) the tiptronic auto that Porsche used in the 996 as the gearbox in my C55.

It's got the paddles, but I find that nudging the shifter left and right is more satisfying- very similar to a clutchless manual then, albeit a very slow one.

For me the heal and toe downshift is a critical part of driving a sports car - each drive should be a challenge, should be something you strive to get better at.

But by the same token if I'm wading through the turgid mire of London traffic I'm buggered if I want to be using a clutch every 10 seconds.

What I think I'm saying is that everyone needs at least two cars, probably four.
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INWB
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my drive I have everything:

A flat 6 manual

A turbo DSG

A supercharged manual

A EV

When you have a bike the perfect number you own is +1. The same applies to cars.

I love my DSG for everyday. However, if you have a glorious flat 6 behind you then you need a manual. Esp when it is old. Hence why auto 911s are worth a pickled egg, a washer and some lint and manuals are prized.

New clutch, short shifter and some empty road and you win,
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GMG
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...I have a feeling that in the not too distant future potential 911 buyers used to autos and flappy paddles will be as interested in autos as manuals...which will be a step change from the historical norm...

Just a hunch but based on the fact that most new sports cars are autos albeit with sophisticated boxes...
 
  
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babsyttt
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread has officially cost me money - Today I bought a set of C63 paddles in prep for making the conversion! Very Happy
 
  
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Robertb
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GMG wrote:
...I have a feeling that in the not too distant future potential 911 buyers used to autos and flappy paddles will be as interested in autos as manuals...which will be a step change from the historical norm...

Just a hunch but based on the fact that most new sports cars are autos albeit with sophisticated boxes...


Its a curious thing... I went to a talk by the Jag F Type project leader, who said that enthusiasts and press had clamoured for manual variants, so they built one. However as a percentage of new sales they are low single digits. What enthusiasts want and what actual buyers want are clearly different things.

Presumably as hybrid powertrains etc become the norm the manual box will be consigned to history.
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JS1500
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
GMG wrote:
...I have a feeling that in the not too distant future potential 911 buyers used to autos and flappy paddles will be as interested in autos as manuals...which will be a step change from the historical norm...

Just a hunch but based on the fact that most new sports cars are autos albeit with sophisticated boxes...


Its a curious thing... I went to a talk by the Jag F Type project leader, who said that enthusiasts and press had clamoured for manual variants, so they built one. However as a percentage of new sales they are low single digits. What enthusiasts want and what actual buyers want are clearly different things.

Presumably as hybrid powertrains etc become the norm the manual box will be consigned to history.


I test drove an F-Type when they first came out and if they'd had a manual option I may well have got one. Instead I went for a second hand V8 Vantage.

Manual gearboxes are pretty much already history. Good job old cars are better anyway!
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