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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

petop wrote:
I use M all the time and i think apart from the 1st 2 days of owning my C4S using D, ive never been out of M. I always found that the gearbox wanted to change too early in D and even though i went the "auto" route, i still wanted to tell the car when to change gear.

You're missing a lot of fun. Admittedly, it's quick fun, but that's what a 911's for. Well, some of the time, anyway. As for city driving, who on Earth wamts to change gear?

Then, of course, there's mixing D and M. Smile A Tip isn't just one or the other.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd still be interested in hearing from more manual drivers. As to what gears they spend most of their time in ......... Maybe a different thread topic is needed to draw out comments.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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JAD wrote:


I'd still be interested in hearing from more manual drivers. As to what gears they spend most of their time in ......... Maybe a different thread topic is needed to draw out comments.


Great minds think alike John Grin

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This thread was about "pressing on".
When at Millbrook, specifically on the handling circuit, I found myself mostly in 3rd and 4th gears, rarely in 2nd and this was the case also for the one track day that I have done. (So much torque in 3rd).
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1

In real world spirited driving I find 2nd is only ever needed for tight hairpins, and 5th or above largely unnecessary until you are backing off... Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

Having started my Porsche life with a 911 SC, then a 3.2 Carrera finally moving to my 996 3.6, I'd have to say that my 911 would always have to be a manual, when looking for my 996, I'd find a few nice cars but was adamant that it had to be a manual gearbox.
I did have a Loan car that was a tip but, for me personally, I feel much more at one with the car in manual form.
Porsche wanted to widen their market by offering a tip, and they did that for sure.
It's all a personal choice at the end of the day.
Good dilemma to Have though, right?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting but not entirely surprising. It really is the 2 vs 3 gears of the tip vs manual. But I'd argue at slower corners, you'd need 2nd in the tip as well. I remember I had to use 2nd in Bedford at the tighter corners (and it wasn't exactly dry so I went slow). When I was driving Caterhams at Donington, with a bit more skill, I really could take the whole track in just 5th gear. The porker will only need 3rd and 4th, with probably some awkward in-between moments where the manual may allow me to stay in 4th.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each to their own but it takes a bit of skill to drive a Tip using the buttons on the steering wheel, done properly it's so fast and responsive it's breathtaking it takes ages to wipe the smile of your face, I personally would never go back to driving a manual. nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each to their own but it takes a bit of skill to drive a manual using the gearstick and clutch, done properly it's so fast and responsive it's breathtaking it takes ages to wipe the smile of your face, I personally would never go back to driving an auto.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8996C4 wrote:
So ........... when do manual drivers use their 5th gear Question


The Ring....

That's easy..Flugplatz (car is more settled there in 5th) Schwedenkreuz,
the run up through Kesselchen to Klostertal, Planzgarten (combo of 4th &
5th) and of course Dottinger Hohe...lol

...and on faster, smooth roads I use 5th a lot in cross country driving... Grin
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick w wrote:
T8996C4 wrote:
So ........... when do manual drivers use their 5th gear Question


The Ring ..............Flugplatz (car is more settled there in 5th) Schwedenkreuz, the run up through Kesselchen to Klostertal, Planzgarten (combo of 4th & 5th) and of course Dottinger Hohe ......



Yep, that's about what I thought Judge
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the the real benefits of the Tip is city driving, when you don't have to suffer endless leg & arm movements or better still a traffic jam giving you a chance to relax and put your slippers on. Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracking read, and thanks T8 for starting it Very Happy

Ive been pondering the 911 daily for a while now and this summer im taking the leap. Hearts set on a 996.2 sub 90k miles (pref a C4s). But there is an aweful lot more choice of colour and specs in the Tip world to manual.

I have a race car and love that kind of driving, but this is just for my daily so will always going to be a bit of a compromise. Having never owned an Auto ive driven plenty of BMW flappy paddles and do think the lazy "auto-esque" will suit the daily bimble, while the buttons help get it poking on the country roads.

So thank you, im now not too permissive of the Tip box and will at least go give it a go Smile

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timpani wrote:
when certain friends have said "you bought an auto sports car, are you mad?" this is the answer " yes, have you ever driven one?"




Ha! I like that! Wink
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So thank you, im now not too permissive of the Tip box and will at least go give it a go Smile


Sounds like a very reasonable conclusion Thumb

And now you can have paddle shifters retro-fitted to your Tiptronic wheel (or a manual wheel in fact), you can bring the 'manual' gear change side of things bang up to date too.

Good luck with the search for your 996 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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andylang wrote:

So thank you, im now not too permissive of the Tip box and will at least go give it a go Smile


Sounds like a very reasonable conclusion Thumb

And now you can have paddle shifters retro-fitted to your Tiptronic wheel (or a manual wheel in fact), you can bring the 'manual' gear change side of things bang up to date too.

Good luck with the search for your 996 Very Happy


Ohhhhh really?! Paddle shifts on the wheel - will certainly look into this and buy a manual wheel if I do indeed end up with a Tip box

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW!!! Thanks T8 worship

Looking perfect and kind of pushing me towards preferring a triptronic so that I can get some flappy paddles fitted! Only £400, and looks almost OE.

Having a good read of that other thread Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...before settling for a Tip' I looked at and drove a manual 996.

My preference, ultimately, was the choices offered by the auto; the fact that the gear changes are perfect and you are always in the right gear...when driven in manual mode it's awesome...both hands on the wheel so you have complete control and holding onto gears and then ***** up and down the box....wonderful!

And then you reach a city/town etc or simply want to bimble and you nip it into D and relax...superbly adaptable...

Plus no clutch replacement costs or manual box issues and the potential in the future that purchasers now used to autos in sports cars (modern paddle shifts) etc will be attracted to Tips rather than put off as has been the case historically...

You genuinely can't lose...
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a record for thread resurrection?

‘Plus no clutch replacement costs or manual box issues’ ... over to you T8
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smigga wrote:
As a side note, do tip users tend to use buttons in manual when having fun or just use D?
I do miss judging the engine speed with my left foot between changes but find the tip excellent and a very smooth way to change up/down in a blink! thumbsup

Dave

I'd recommend getting the paddle shift conversion to your steering wheel if you want to get the best from your tip. Much preferable to the buttons!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Axlesnap wrote:


Is this a record for thread resurrection?



LOL. If it had been resurrected from cold it probably would be but I actually linked it elsewhere earlier today.

Here ---> http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=132528&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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