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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:09 am    Post subject: OPC warranty Reply with quote

Hello all

Well time has come, do I or don't I? I have owned my 997 C2S for just about a year would seem and the shiny OPC warranty has run out. I have been invited to spend more hard earned cash to extend the warranty for another year after I have spent yet more cash for my zillion poi Question nt check by OPC Reading.

Honestly speaking I have no issues with the car and she has 50K miles racked up, yet I have heard of some nightmare tales which if not covered under warranty would cost a proverbial arm and a leg to fix!

I am minded to extend the warranty for further piece of mind as I do not plan to change the car in the near future.

Any thought from you learned lot would be most welcome. I have her booked in for next week at the moment. Question
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally I am against warranty, in in fact only yesterday turned down the kind offer from Aston Martin to renew mine for the bargain price of £1400,

However with the potential IMS and scored bores, and the fact that they do replace pretty much everything, I would be renewing a Porsche one.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An old conumdrum, The warranty does provide peace of mind, the 111 point pre check assures you and Porsche the car is sound, you have the benefit of Porsche assist should anything go wrong - but you could be paying over 1k for something you dont need.

Its all a bit of a game, you are betting the car will need work and Porsche are betting it doesnt but the truth is the average repair under warranty must be less than the warranty price otherwise the warranty would rise to cover the costs.

The only negative to Porsche warranty is the number of items not covered and their restrictive clauses that invalidate the warranty - silly things such as not fitting a Porsche battery or wiper blades when their warranty does not cover these items in the first place.
I can understand why Porsche want all their vehicles with all genuine Porsche parts but non warranty components doesnt make sense, i think if Porsche want to insist everything is OEM then everything should be covered.

There are other warranty companies available that dont insist everything is OEM with as good or even better cover out there (warrantywise for example) but you will need breakdown assistance as a seperate product.

Piece of mind says get the Porsche warranty, sense says warranty with someone else, The gambler in me says no warranty and take my chance and for me this has paid off with every car i have had, the only thing i do do is get breakdown cover with relay.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't say what age your car is or how many miles you are intending to do this year so it's difficult to advise.

If it was me and the car was bought for relatively big money a year ago I'd happily renew an OPC warranty to give me the peace of mind for another years motoring, especially if I was wanting to make good use of the car.

If the car is older (pre 06 Dont know ) and I only intended to use it for c3k miles in the next year I might consider not bothering with a warranty.

The one thing I definitely would not do is change the OPC warranty for a cheaper one.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: OPC Warranty Reply with quote

Thanks guys for the comments

Arghhh it's a real gamble. Tructh of the matter is the car is awesome 55 plate with just 50K on the clock. I drive it sensibly but when opportunity knocks I "enjoy it". Frankly speaking I will cover less than 5K miles in her this year .....

I have already abided by the stupid rules of new battery etc...

I am minded to invest in the OPC warranty if nothing more than piece of mind and if I ever do sell her it is further evidence of it being a cherished vehicle etc....
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I would have it.

Ok it will oct about 2.3k for 2 years however it will help you sleep at night and fixing the little bits and bobs that come up will soon add up to a lot of money over the 2 years.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looked at Warrantywise myself... any suggestions for what to choose for the 'single repair limit'? It's set to £5,000 based on my car ('05 997 C2S on 65k)

—single repair limit: £5,000
—labour rate 2: unto £75/hour
—£924
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was the cost indication from warranty wise?
Sorry can't help regarding single job cost but I will watch the answers from our learned friends.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to be in the same situation 1 year from now and have considered making some small modifications to the car using non OEM parts which would invalidate the warranty.

I'm planning on doing some track days and I spoke to someone in the car industry (not allighned to Porsche in any way) to get their thoughts. They thought it was a no brainer to renew the warranty especially as it covers track day use and there's no limit to the claim. For piece of mind I'm going to keep everything standard and pay for the extended warranty, I don't want to start to imagine what the bill would be if the engine goes pop.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

windy wrote:
Just looked at Warrantywise myself... any suggestions for what to choose for the 'single repair limit'? It's set to £5,000 based on my car ('05 997 C2S on 65k)

—single repair limit: £5,000
—labour rate 2: unto £75/hour
—£924


If this is for 12 months then it doesn't look great value. The Porsche warranty (without RAC) is £1020.00 with no max limit, and obviously Porsche labour rates paid in full.

Just had a quick look on the WW site. To cover Porsche labour rates, have a £10k limit and items covered by the Porsche warranty, brings the cost up to just under £1500 for a year !
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: OPC Warranty Reply with quote

916SP wrote:


I am minded to invest in the OPC warranty if nothing more than piece of mind and if I ever do sell her it is further evidence of it being a cherished vehicle etc....


If it helps make it seem more palatable, think of it in terms of £2.79 per day Grin
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there

If you want complete peace of mind buy the warranty!

If you don't mind the fact it may throw up faults, recently I had an engine mount snapped, Porsche replaced both under warranty, I suspect the parts and labour for that would have cost me over £500.

If you don't mind the potential of such things failing which can cost upto 2k then don't buy the warranty take the chance.

But if the engine fails, that could cost around 15k.

However if my engine failed on a car that was less than 10yr old and sub 100k miles and had been serviced on time always and looked after I'd be expecting Porsche to replace the engine or contribute to that replacement. Afterall you expect a premium quality car to last a reasonable amount of time and I don't think 10yr and sub 100k miles is an unreasonable amount of time for a premium vehicle to last.

So buy warranty if you want hassle free warranty repairs and peace of mind.

Don't buy warranty if you don't mind paying for minor issues (upto 2k) or are willing to have the stress and battles with Porsche of trying to get your engine replaced should it let go. Not saying it will but it could do.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem I see with getting a warranty from the OPC is having to pay for the 111 point inspection and then paying them to correct everything they "find" before you can have the warranty.

I looked at a 997 recently and that had about £4k of repairs required according to the notes on the last service (steering rack, dampers, damper top mounts, discs, pads and few odds and ends). The discs and pads were fine and further investigation showed nothing wrong with the rack or top mounts. The issue with the damper was a slightly corroded piston rod - and they all suffer from this. Another non-issue.

I didn't buy the car in the end based on other stuff the OPC hadn't picked up on, including scored cylinder bores, but to have put it under warranty for a year would have cost around £5k (poss more) mainly on stuff that didn't need doing.

Given that the main problem you're trying to protect yourself from is engine related I would go to a good indy and get them to do a boroscope and compression test for less than £100. If any problems show up, renew the warranty pronto. If nothing shows up you'll be better informed as to which direction to go.

Btw, I spoke to an OPC recently regarding the 111 point check and was amazed to hear that they don't check the engine!
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can afford it, do it.

Once the car hits 10yrs of age you're on your own anyway so might as well extend it while you can.

I'm sure it will help any future resale.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have 6 months left on my warranty so I plan to do the 111 point check while the car is still under warranty so hopefully anything they pick up will be covered anyway.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should have the 111 inspection done whilst the car is still under opc warranty, they will simply fix the required items and charge you for the inspection plus the warranty, also get a two year warranty that way the inspection cost is halved. Its a no brainer, buy the warranty, the peace of mind alone is worth every penny and if you sell after the first year your car will much better with one year of genuine opc warranty, just do it, you know it makes sense. Mike
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ What Mike say's 100 % Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had the warranty wise one , its spot on as long as you get your porsche dealer on side they help with the normal gripes from warranty wise.
They have payed out on all claims its silly things they let them self down on like not paying for the paint when i needed a new reversing sensor.
You can beat them down on the price of the warranty , i got 3 years for about the same as 1 from porsche. Bandit
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

p1rob wrote:
^^ What Mike say's 100 % Thumb


+1, that's what I've decided to do, but obviously you have to pay the OPC premium in the first place to get the 2y warranty.

Something to bear in mind when purchasing the car, pay now, save later Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do some do that, get the car 111 checked whilst still under warranty and then the OPC will just fix any issues they find?
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