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ollster
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dommorton wrote:
That's cool no worries. Just be careful with the confidence in these cars. It really doesn't take much for it to all go very wild and scary.


I really wouldn’t give up on rwd 911's based on your experience dom, I had a very similar scare in my first vx220 turbo (about the same weight distribution as a 911 believe or not) off a wet roundabout whilst driving sedately but luckily kept it on the road through pure luck, took about 15 correction before I regained control, pretty sure that was diesel as it snapped so severely. The problem with rear engine cars is you really have to get to the end of the rack quickly as when they snap physics are against you.

In my opinion I doubt you would have fared any better in a 4wd 911 as you would probably have had a much higher entry speed due to the extra confidence 4wd can give hence negating any advantage 4wd would have at getting you out of the brown stuff, plus no matter how many wheels are driven any 911 is still technically a pendulum!
 
  
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Will Statt
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Infrasilver.....

Looks to me like that 'idiot biker' was still well in front of the other car when you were passing the 350z, so it was that other car driver's fault that he ended up going on the grass wasn't it?

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infrasilver
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will Statt wrote:
Hi Infrasilver.....

Looks to me like that 'idiot biker' was still well in front of the other car when you were passing the 350z, so it was that other car driver's fault that he ended up going on the grass wasn't it?

Will


He was in front, but the Clio was actuallymuch quicker and overtaking at the time when the biker swings across the track at him, even another biker pulls along side him and points at his mirrors at 1:34. When being over taken its best to keep right. He just didn't seem to think anyone else was on the track. That's the reason I held back until I knew it was safe to overtake him, I was gutted I didn't get past him when there was that yellow flag but no overtaking allowed then.
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chimp911
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree

Whether that biker was directly or indirectly responsible he should still know better, he needs a lesson in how to use his mirrors and yield to other drivers before he ends up dead, or worse, kills someone else... nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

infrasilver wrote:
Get to the Zebra crossing and its going to tighten, this is what I've learnt doing the Ring pity these guys in front of me didn't realise. Although the one closest to me was riding well until the other two turned up. I do take my time when I come across bikers on the Nurburgring.


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The biker you were following made an all too common mistake which was to follow the guy in front (which looked like a moped?). The moped guy got his line wrong and as any biker knows, rule #1 - if you hit the front brakes then the bike straightens up or you come off. The biker following had to brake because he had no idea where moped guy would end up but by watching him then fell foul of Rule #2 - if you look at it then you will hit it...

Lucky boy... nooo
 
  
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infrasilver
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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infrasilver wrote:
Get to the Zebra crossing and its going to tighten, this is what I've learnt doing the Ring pity these guys in front of me didn't realise. Although the one closest to me was riding well until the other two turned up. I do take my time when I come across bikers on the Nurburgring.


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The biker you were following made an all too common mistake which was to follow the guy in front (which looked like a moped?). The moped guy got his line wrong and as any biker knows, rule #1 - if you hit the front brakes then the bike straightens up or you come off. The biker following had to brake because he had no idea where moped guy would end up but by watching him then fell foul of Rule #2 - if you look at it then you will hit it...

Lucky boy... nooo


I agree.

The other guy in front that doesn't veer off makes me laugh, you can just hear him thinking "were's Wolfgang gone".
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chimp911 wrote:
infrasilver wrote:
Get to the Zebra crossing and its going to tighten, this is what I've learnt doing the Ring pity these guys in front of me didn't realise. Although the one closest to me was riding well until the other two turned up. I do take my time when I come across bikers on the Nurburgring.



The biker you were following made an all too common mistake which was to follow the guy in front (which looked like a moped?). The moped guy got his line wrong and as any biker knows, rule #1 - if you hit the front brakes then the bike straightens up or you come off. The biker following had to brake because he had no idea where moped guy would end up but by watching him then fell foul of Rule #2 - if you look at it then you will hit it...

Lucky boy... nooo


Rule #3 rules are far easier to apply in hindsight than in reality Very Happy
 
  
   
911turbo996
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add my Rule#4, simply on a TF day there are no rules. None that I could see anyway. On my last TF public day it reminded me of Mad Max, indeed at one point whilst a passenger in a car which was overtaking another car, the Nissan GTR behind decided to come between both cars, so 3 cars a breast. Of course the GTR driver could have waited just seconds and gone past safely, but he didn't. It could have been a disaster, that's what happens on a busy day, there are idiots out there who follow no rules. I would have more confidence if the marshals actually took action against these idiots. On a busy TF day your best bet is to hire a car, I would not use my own car. It's simply too dangerous out there.
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