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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Tiff Needell - 991S (manual) vs. GT-R Reply with quote

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New Porsche 911 Carrera S and latest Nissan GT-R do battle around Bedford’s West Circuit. TV's Tiff Needell finds out which is faster - and which is the most fun - in his first evo track battle. What's your money on?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is interesting that the GT-R is very often kept as the landmark car for comparison. 0-60 mph- 2.8 sec worship A lot of performance for the money.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but this ad came to mind Grin


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I spent it dreaming about a Lamborghini or a Ferrari.... Still, maybe when I grow up.....

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'and now we are making it very affordable for you to drive one' Question
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

395 BHP- states 400 in my manual wack looks like it was a PDCC car which would have been faster with a PDK box, so nothing really in it.

My £14500 Fiesta Zetec looks like a Rolls Royce interior compared with the tatty materials on the Nissan which I've seen in the flesh.

The 991 GT3/Turbo will leave the Nissan standing Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'and now we are making it very affordable for you to drive one' Question


Hmm... Yes good call. I guess they meant very affordable, if wealthy!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rimmer wrote:
395 BHP- states 400 in my manual wack looks like it was a PDCC car which would have been faster with a PDK box, so nothing really in it.


Should be quoted as that 400 HP which is only 395 BHP!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I am a Porsche man and do not particularly like the Nissan I would point out:

The 991S is probably 20k more than the GTR

The 991 Turbo with extras will probably be twice the price of the GTR.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian996 wrote:
Although I am a Porsche man and do not particularly like the Nissan I would point out:

The 991S is probably 20k more than the GTR

The 991 Turbo with extras will probably be twice the price of the GTR.


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I have driven it, the acceleration is frightening!

Having said that the on going costs etc are more.

It's Porker for me. Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have a skyline GTR (previous generation) and it was a great car with superb performance, let down a little by a halfords interior and relative anonymity to all but Gran Turismo gamers and a few godzilla aficionados.

The most telling thing about the ownership experience was having to endlessly explain to the mass uninitiated that it was "...a bit like a 911" nooo

Great bang for the buck especially in it's latest guise, and one that will always turn my head if no-one else's, but sadly it will forever only be "a bit like a 911"...
 



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dreamt of a 911 and now have one
I never considered the gtr and I have dealings with a tuner of gtr car in my business I did drive both
For me it's driving pleasure versus power,both 911 and gtr are silly on roads but when driving slower the 911rewards more than the gtr
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the way Tiff powerslide Porsches, and I like the fact you can listen the throttle position quite well thanks to the magnificent sound symposer.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would Nissan give to have Porsche? I like the GTR, however I have no wish to own one, I just feel it will become like a Suburu (which is good at what it does) and home to every chav who can afford one.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked at the nissan, but as reviously mentioned running costs were stupid

Service every 6 months at £600,
no track days unless post track day service (£800 I think and they check as sat nav tells them if you've been on a track)
Tyres all need to be replaced at the same time (or voids warranty)
All discs and pads need to be replaced at same time £5k
The list goes on

Yes it will beat 911 in 0-60 and timed round track, but there are a lot more elements to driving than that. The GTR is MASSIVE, I think 911's are like driving go-carts, reminds me of my 206 GTI 180 I used to have.

I've always liked the 911, but never had the picture on my wall as a kid (except 959). It was only when I drove one that my mind changed, loved the 997.2 C2S, then drove the 997.1 GT3 and it just felt like a big powerful go kart. I've driven F430, LP560, DBS, R8 V10, R8 V8 and were all great cars but felt completely different. I honestly don't know if I'll ever sell it, and if I do it definately won't be for a Datsun! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the GTR is a little closer and also the 911 has got a little bigger in its life span but I took this photo last year and the GTR looks like a tank.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those who comment on the quality of the interior of the GT-R either have impeccable standards or haven't been anywhere near the inside of one

I have a great respect and admiration for GT-R

I am a porsche man and in same vein would never purchase ferrari/lambo/bentley/etc either so nothing to do with snobbery that I don't have one
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rimmer wrote:
395 BHP- states 400 in my manual


I suspect in the manual it will read 400PS. The conversion is:

1bhp=0.986PS

ref: http://www.statman.info/conversions/power.html

So 394bhp as Tiff states is approx correct.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maxie wrote:
Rimmer wrote:
395 BHP- states 400 in my manual


I suspect in the manual it will read 400PS. The conversion is:

1bhp=0.986PS

ref: http://www.statman.info/conversions/power.html

So 394bhp as Tiff states is approx correct.

~ Maxie


Maxie - I've just noticed your signature says " C4S-S"? As it's your signature Im guessing that's not a typo... Question
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