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michelin
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:08 am    Post subject: Do headlights have to be removed to remove the front bumper? Reply with quote

Just in the process of this now. I only want to give the rads a quick clean etc and not really keen on remving headlights in case they dont go back in level for road use. The lights are non xenon.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes lights have to come out, an easy job though with the supplied tool in the (small) toolkit.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martian wrote:
Yes lights have to come out, an easy job though with the supplied tool in the (small) toolkit.


Thanks for the reply.
I've managed to get one out but the other was very tight so much so that the head of the bolt has sheared off !!! Sad
Any ideas, any help appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5mm socket on slim extender.

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=56929

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=54922
 
  
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michelin
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
5mm socket on slim extender.

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=56929

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=54922

I used my own 5mm socket etc and upon trying to turn the bar the 5pm head on the bolt sheared off ! Couldn't believe it.
How on earth do I get light out now?
Help
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I guess you are looking at mole grips or a reverse threaded socket (it is possible that the mounting table can be accessed via the wheel arch liner, but I am not convinced the access will be meaningful).

AFAIK, you need OPC!

By the way, which headlamp side was this (driver/passenger) and what direction were you turning the release tool/socket (CW/CCW)?
 
  
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michelin
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Well I guess you are looking at mole grips or a reverse threaded socket (it is possible that the mounting table can be accessed via the wheel arch liner, but I am not convinced the access will be meaningful).

AFAIK, you need OPC!

By the way, which headlamp side was this (driver/passenger) and what direction were you turning the release tool/socket (CW/CCW)?


It was passenger side and I turned it the opposite direction to the drivers side one. That came out fine.
I'm think of using a 3 or 4mm nut and screwing it onto the thread with hope it will at least release the lamp. Then all I need to do is order a new locking bar.
Hmmmm not happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RHD vehicle:

pax side to remove = anti CW, 180deg
pax side to replace = retaining bar relaxed (pointing down) quarter deg. CW

Drivers side to remove = CW 180deg.
Drivers side to replace = retaining bar relaxed, quarter turn anti CW.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobsan wrote:
RHD vehicle:

pax side to remove = anti CW, 180deg
pax side to replace = retaining bar relaxed (pointing down) quarter deg. CW

Drivers side to remove = CW 180deg.
Drivers side to replace = retaining bar relaxed, quarter turn anti CW.

Thanks for the info guys. Having trouble getting a grip on the thread to turn it seeing as head is no longer there Question
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No the headlamps do not have to come off to remove the front bumper, I did a Gen 2 front and rear conversion to mine not long ago, and the headlamps stayed firmly in place!
 



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

monster wrote:
No the headlamps do not have to come off to remove the front bumper, I did a Gen 2 front and rear conversion to mine not long ago, and the headlamps stayed firmly in place!

Ah right thanks. I've removed all necessary bolts and the two black slide clips near the headlamps. Tried getting it off before and no luck, dont want to snap anything, again !!
Is it only held in by the clips near to the headlamps ?
Cheers
p.s. still have the problem with the sheared bolt. God knows what I will do if one of the lamps fail ??? Dont know
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:01 pm    Post subject: Do headlights have to be removed to remove the front bumper? Reply with quote

Hope this helps. Once you removed all these the bumper should pull off.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Michelin, Cunno's reply is an excellent one, he has shown clearly all the different fixing areas, well done that man!! We didnt bother removing the wheels on mine, but that would make the job easier if its your first time!

The sliding clip in his second pic is the one that you would struggle to work out if you were approaching this job without prior knowledge!

Its sounds a lot of trouble to go to in order to clean your rads!, can't you just reach in with your hands and remove any debris!

yes the sheared bolt is probably worth forgetting about until such time as when you actually do need to remove the lamp, chances are you never will!

Good luck!
 
  
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Pip1968
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are the last two bolts (shown in the last picture) situated?

Sorry new to Porsche so just constantly browsing for tip top tips.

Pip
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Do headlights have to be removed to remove the front bumper? Reply with quote

Pip1968 wrote:
Where are the last two bolts (shown in the last picture) situated?

Sorry new to Porsche so just constantly browsing for tip top tips.

Pip


Just infront of the front wheels, at the bottom of the bumper.
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michelin
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got the bumper off. Thanks for all your help guys.
Stil got the issue of getting passenger light out if it fails Dont know
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

monster wrote:
Hi Michelin, Cunno's reply is an excellent one, he has shown clearly all the different fixing areas, well done that man!! We didnt bother removing the wheels on mine, but that would make the job easier if its your first time!

The sliding clip in his second pic is the one that you would struggle to work out if you were approaching this job without prior knowledge!

Its sounds a lot of trouble to go to in order to clean your rads!, can't you just reach in with your hands and remove any debris!

yes the sheared bolt is probably worth forgetting about until such time as when you actually do need to remove the lamp, chances are you never will!

Good luck!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Do headlights have to be removed to remove the front bum Reply with quote

Cunno wrote:
Hope this helps. Once you removed all these the bumper should pull off.

Jon.

Cheers Jon the info, it helped alot. Good lad Cool
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