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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lot of rubber Surprised Chap on here with a suit to go with them Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Lookie what arrived this morning Reply with quote

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235/35/19 Fronts 10Kg each
305/30/19 Rears 13Kg each, thats a lot of rubber


Surprised

Indeed that is a lot of unsprung weight if you ask me. I'll be interested to know what the wheel weights are, Mark.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Lookie what arrived this morning Reply with quote

Maxie wrote:
markiii wrote:
235/35/19 Fronts 10Kg each
305/30/19 Rears 13Kg each, thats a lot of rubber


Surprised

Indeed that is a lot of unsprung weight if you ask me. I'll be interested to know what the wheel weights are, Mark.

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I know, I ended up weighing them twice on two different scales I was so surprised.

the wheels as best I can find on the net are 22lbs and 27lbs respectively for the lobster claws

which I make 9.97Kg and 12.2kg respectively

whihhhc means tehe tyres are heavier than the wheels,, ouch

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wondering what 295 section tyres would weigh as these are fitted as standard on the C2S. The wheel weights for the standard Lobster Claws are very light imo - not bad for a pressure-cast wheel (I think the forged Turbo items are lighter still). But yes, ouch indeed for tyres weighing more than the wheels!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many tyre weights here:

(apologies these are in pounds/lbs, but it is a US site)

http://www.tirerack.com/index.jsp
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they reckon 13Kg for the 305 rears and 11kg for the 235 so pretty much spot on my results

for the Pirellis they reckon 13Kg for the 305 rears and 10kg for the 235

so at least I haven't added any weight

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, for the same tyre width and profile (and load rating - ie corner weight and speed) the tyre weights are going to be pretty much identical (within a pound or two).

Afterall, basically all they are is solid moulded rubber on steel bands (with a spoonful of silicon etc etc).
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep

always nice to prove theory with practice though
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markiii wrote:
yep

always nice to prove theory with practice though


Crikey, it's a weight look-up table (if for nothing else, to calculate shipping), it's not a sex manual!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should hope so if the rubber in that context weghed 10Kg I'd need a doctor Surprised
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many years of practice markiii xiānshēng.

Confucius say, add a gram a day and soon you will have three legs.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best tyres I have ever had.

Any idea when we'll get N-rated ones?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are going to make your car so much better. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already have a set of MPSS ready to fit, but trips to the 'Ring haven't killed off my Pirelli Corsa's yet!
I have tried, but 10 laps and they're still good, will take a great tyre to out-class the Corsa's.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martian wrote:
I already have a set of MPSS ready to fit, but trips to the 'Ring haven't killed off my Pirelli Corsa's yet!
I have tried, but 10 laps and they're still good, will take a great tyre to out-class the Corsa's.


The MPSS is not better than the Corsa in the dry, track or for feel. Infect the Corsa is sublime tyre, wish could still get them. Sad

Gotta remember the Corsa competed with Michelin cups and was nearly as good in the dry but was better in the wet and had better wearrates.

The MPSS replaces PS2 and is better in every way and is truly sublime in the wet but for dry traction and driver feedback the cups and corsas are better.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following from Michelin this morning:

Thank you for your enquiry about N rated Pilot Super Sport tyres.

We are currently in the process of working with Porsche on the approval of these sizes.

Unfortunately, we are not in a position to say when the approval will be obtained, as it depends on many different factors.

Therefore we do not have any dates for when we will have the N specification tyres available.
 
  
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