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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got a reply from them,

"We are currently working on 'N' fitment with Porsche on sizes, 235/35 ZR 19 (91Y) FRONT and
305/30 ZR 19 (102Y) REAR on the 911 Turbo (997), however at the moment we cannot give a time scale for the homologation being obtained and the 'N' marked tyres becoming available."

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

foxmod wrote:
Finally got a reply from them,

"We are currently working on 'N' fitment with Porsche on sizes, 235/35 ZR 19 (91Y) FRONT and
305/30 ZR 19 (102Y) REAR on the 911 Turbo (997), however at the moment we cannot give a time scale for the homologation being obtained and the 'N' marked tyres becoming available."

Dave


Roughly translated...

michelin (probably) wrote:
We have not agreed to pay the extortionate price that Porsche are demanding from us to enable us to cash in on their lucrative OEM aftersales business... We are currently doing fine selling tyres to owners of other makes of car and/or people who don't give a flying ***** about N-ratings...

If Porsche decide to take a reality pill and lower their price for their little anti-competitive game we may reconsider and stick an N on some of our new tyres, otherwise, hell will freeze over first... "


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...I don't think that's a rough translation at all Wattie...your probably 100% spot on Smile

Don't see them doing any 18" 30/315 section tyres anytime soon either nooo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No N rated PSS until next 991/998 launch - Porsche delay, not Michelin.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I need to get new rear tyres for my 997 C2S. Is it safe to put Super Sports at the rear and leave the fronts on PS2s. There's still quite a lot of life left in the fronts so i'd rather not change them if i can help it.

I've read about non-N rating possibly affecting warranty. Will it invalidate my insurance if i have non-N rated tyres?

Also any recommendations on where to get the best price.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Pav

EDIT: Sorry, you can get Super Sports in 295/30/19 now, where only the 4S and Turbo size 305 were available.

Are you still thinking of a wheel colour change? If we can tie it in with some new tyres then you shoudl get a good saving. Please drop me an email.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris W wrote:
Hi Pav

You cant get Super Sports in 295/30/19, only the 4S and Turbo size 305.

Are you still thinking of a wheel colour change? If we can tie it in with some new tyres then you shoudl get a good saving. Please drop me an email.


Yes you can, I had a set fitted last week and they are a definite improvement over n-rated PS2's Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gadgetJunky72 wrote:
Will it invalidate my insurance if i have non-N rated tyres?


No-one on an internet forum can answer that - only you and your insurance company.

I can tell you Aviva for instance do not recognise n-rating as relevant to insurance.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gibbo205 wrote:
Chris W wrote:
Hi Pav

You cant get Super Sports in 295/30/19, only the 4S and Turbo size 305.

Are you still thinking of a wheel colour change? If we can tie it in with some new tyres then you shoudl get a good saving. Please drop me an email.


Yes you can, I had a set fitted last week and they are a definite improvement over n-rated PS2's Smile


Whoops, sorry I stand corrected they are indeed available now. Still not N rated though.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris W wrote:
Gibbo205 wrote:
Chris W wrote:
Hi Pav

You cant get Super Sports in 295/30/19, only the 4S and Turbo size 305.

Are you still thinking of a wheel colour change? If we can tie it in with some new tyres then you shoudl get a good saving. Please drop me an email.


Yes you can, I had a set fitted last week and they are a definite improvement over n-rated PS2's Smile


Whoops, sorry I stand corrected they are indeed available now. Still not N rated though.


Correct not n-rated but I have it in writing from Porsche saying they are happy to allow me to fit none n-rated tyres to my car under extended warranty, just as long as they are the Super Sports as Porsche recognise them as a tyre designed for the 911 and are now selling new cars with these fitted even though not n-rated and also the fact all the cars at the experience centre at Silverstone are also wearing none N-rated SuperSports too. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a newbie, looking to buy a 997, just spotted this thread and thought I'd share my experience on my current car - Audi RS4.

I've driven them extensively with P Zeros, PS2 and now PSS.

The Michelin PS2's outshone the Pirellis with ease: quieter marginally, tighter turn-in and better in the wet. Significantly better life.

I've had a set now of PSS for a while: feel better under braking that the PS2s (wet and dry), feel sharper in dry (but id concede it could be the obvious change of worn to new) and definitely wear better.

The tread wear rating (300) seems extraordinary given the performance, but appears to be living up to its number.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RJKflyer wrote:
As a newbie, looking to buy a 997, just spotted this thread and thought I'd share my experience on my current car - Audi RS4.

I've driven them extensively with P Zeros, PS2 and now PSS.

The Michelin PS2's outshone the Pirellis with ease: quieter marginally, tighter turn-in and better in the wet. Significantly better life.

I've had a set now of PSS for a while: feel better under braking that the PS2s (wet and dry), feel sharper in dry (but id concede it could be the obvious change of worn to new) and definitely wear better.

The tread wear rating (300) seems extraordinary given the performance, but appears to be living up to its number.



Had the PSS a few days now and few hundred miles in and over the PS2's they replaced I'd sum at as follows
- Marginally better dry grip
- Better feedback, especially in wet
- Much better under heavy braking
- Far far superior wet grip
- supposedly they last longer too! Smile

In short slightly better in the dry and way way better in the wet, superb tyres! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:23 pm    Post subject: Best place to buy Michelin PSS Reply with quote

well unfortunately looks like my rears are goinf to need doing sooner than anticpated, and I'm buggered if I'm running another year with Pirellis so Pilot Super Sports it is

Whats the general consensus as to the cheapest supplier?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just bought new tyres for m5 and 911 from camskill.co.uk

great price and service !!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris at www.exelwheels.co.uk or www.tyretraders.com
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are Michelin doing a PSS for the Porsche yet?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sizes yes N rating no
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

markiii wrote:
sizes yes N rating no


Spot on.

There was a guy from Michelin giving us a talk at the Porsche festival on Sunday. Porsche is currently testing the PSS and according to him there should be an N-rated version in approx 12 months time.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris from Exel Wheels all the way. I'd wouldn't use anybody else.
I've just had two BS's fitted to the front, he uses powder coated weights like OEM !
Superb !
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:03 pm    Post subject: Lookie what arrived this morning Reply with quote

A stack of Pilot Super Sports



Finally killed my Rear Pirellis and thought it about time to replace the lot.

So new Super Sports all round. I was intrigued to see what if any weight differences there are between the current Neros Rossos so will be weighing those when they come off and the bare wheels.

for now

235/35/19 Fronts 10Kg each
305/30/19 Rears 13Kg each

thats a lot of rubber
 
  
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