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andyc
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1...no mk2.....no mk1, feck it, just buy them both m8 Very Happy
Guess it would come down to the drive, motrons and 6pots on mk2, full cage and those looks on mk1, thankfully i can't afford either just now Mad

This just in theory or you??????????? hmmmm, c'mon, spill the beans Stu, you AND James going to the ring in a 3 next year?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:46 pm    Post subject: Just bought the Mk2 with Motons.... Reply with quote

Hi Chaps,

Largely because of this thread making me aware of it, I did a PX deal with my standard and confort Mk1 996 GT3 and the Red MK2 with Motons.

A little controversial...

Basically I wanted to get something that was more track focussed and was considering spending a fair chunk of cash on the Mk1 but felt that the Red car had already had a lot spent on it and mine had a value as a original and standard car.

Anyone in the market for a Mk1, I would be happy to chat re mine - only positive things to say about it.

So what are peoples views on Moton? Seems a track bias geo (what I wanted) but as I picked it up in -5 degrees, limited opportunity to have a proper drive.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sold the MK1 ?? Banned


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Just bought the Mk2 with Motons.... Reply with quote

SimonClark wrote:
So what are peoples views on Moton? Seems a track bias geo (what I wanted) but as I picked it up in -5 degrees, limited opportunity to have a proper drive.


Congratulations & I think you've done the right thing financially Thumb

I've got the new design 2-way adjustable remote reservoir Clubsport Motons in mine & I think they're just brilliant. You need to check what spring rates you have as they will reward using stiffer spings. For reference, I'm running 900lb/in rear & 700lb/in front. Standard GT3 is 650 & 450 so you can see how much the increase is. Jerome @ Moton is very approachable and can give you an indication of recommended springs for your intended use.

Start getting used to logging everything as it's amazing the range of adjustments each track needs depending on tyres & conditions. This year was a steep learning curve for me, but I'm now getting a useful set of base settings & understanding far better what the car will do if you change one of them. It's huge fun Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks and I intend on getting under the car on Saturday morning to have a good poke around so will check springs etc.

Daniel:- I love the mk1, more than the mk2 BUT I wanted something more track bias and managed to get into a car that's had a lot of money spent on it for less than the cost of the suspension..and its 5 years newer.

I know now that I've sold the mk1 they will instantly appreciate and they'll be £60k next year, meanwhile the mk2 will be £25k!!

Looking forward to learning a new car when the weather improves...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

an option ?
http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=591559

(hope that's allowed!)
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry David, not got access to that forum... what is the topic about?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an ad for Adrian Ong's old GT3 MK1 (the polarexpress). It's a Manthey K400 conversion & is well known both on here & in the wider GT3 community. It's got 68K miles on it & is up for £37.5K
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had some pax laps in it at Oulton with Adrien (as well as sideways laps with Nick on the same day IIRC) - it was well sorted then, can't comment on what's happened since but current owner is certainly an enthusiast.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NXI20 wrote:
It's an ad for Adrian Ong's old GT3 MK1 (the polarexpress). It's a Manthey K400 conversion & is well known both on here & in the wider GT3 community. It's got 68K miles on it & is up for £37.5K


so let's look at the facts

it was for sale by the previous owner Adrien Ong for almost 50k when it was claimed to be a straight car

but it was uncovered by the current owner through JZM that the car has been involved in 2 very big off's, facts hidden by the previous owner

a big off at the Nurburgring, repaired by Manthey

but then straight into a concrete wall of the silverstone pitlane at high speed, it was a miracle the car wasn't a Cat D at the time

how can he claimed it was repaired to a higher standard than before, WTF, you telling me a fresh chassis fro Porsche is not as good as a crash repair

so these are the facts
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With all the repair work the car should be valued as if it was a Cat repaired, although was never registered as one, still not a bad car for no more than £35k


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow and the current owner had the front to say this forum should not be trusted and gave us a kicking on PH nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clinchy993 wrote:
Wow and the current owner had the front to say this forum should not be trusted and gave us a kicking on PH nooo


are you kidding me, he has the nerve to give 911uk a kicking

I've spoken to terry in the past and he admits that he did a deal to buy the Polarexpress car from Ong for circa £45k for a 'straight never been crashed' car until he got info, armed with the truth he got the price adjusted down to the 'truthful it has been crashed big time' £39.5k!

what a ***** frustrated

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and this is the message terryb sent to me back in Jan

terryb wrote:
Hi Paul

Thanks mate. I have no time for him either as he told me a bare faced lie when I questioned him about the accident at Silverstone - even though I had seen the pics and it was Steve at JZM that told me the truth.. Ade gave me BS about it just cracking the rear PU.

I then told him I still wanted the car (Mike Wilds gave it the seal of approval after driving it at Oulton) but said basically that I couldn't trust him as he has lied to me - I asked him why he would do that and he must have felt like complete tw&t. I ended up offering him £5k less than what we had already agreed if he wanted to complete the deal (he was taking my CSL as part of the deal).

I ended up paying £39.5k which even with the history was one helluva price.

What did you buy in the end?

Cheers

Terry


when I enquired about the car I was told the same BS from Ade, that the rear PU was just cracked, not the fact it had been slammed into a concrete wall at high speed at silverstone, no wonder Ade got thrown off 911uk Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's keep it on track (no pun intended)... wack

but like Paul said the PE is getting on for Cat D money now and that's a heck of alot of car for the money...
 
  
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Rossi911
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuart wrote:
Let's keep it on track (no pun intended)... wack

like Paul said the PE is getting on for Cat D money now and that's a heck of alot of car for the money...


he should be grateful that a place like 911uk exists. So in other words ***** decided to slag off 911uk after he failed to erase all past reference to it's crash history, *****

So on topic it's no more than a £35k car and possibly less subject to any mechanical wear at the higher mileage of the car

talking of good GT3's have you seen this one http://www.911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=2342
very much like my old 996 GT3 Thumb



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul GT3 wrote:

he should be grateful that a place like 911uk exists. So in other words ***** decided to slag off 911uk after he failed to erase all past reference to it's crash history, *****

So on topic it's no more than a £35k car and possibly less subject to any mechanical wear at the higher mileage of the car

talking of good GT3's have you seen this one http://www.911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=2342
very much like my old 996 GT3 Thumb



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And yes, I've seen that red MKII and it's lovely, has had some very nice upgrades and contrary to the PH thread I don't see it as high miles either... Sadly out of my range anytime soon...
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul GT3 wrote:

are you kidding me, he has the nerve to give 911uk a kicking

I've spoken to terry in the past and he admits that he did a deal to buy the Polarexpress car from Ong for circa £45k for a 'straight never been crashed' car until he got info, armed with the truth he got the price adjusted down to the 'truthful it has been crashed big time' £39.5k!


what a ***** frustrated

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul GT3 wrote:

talking of good GT3's have you seen this one http://www.911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=2342
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Been offline for a while and just catching up on a few threads....so, anyone know anything about the red Manthey 410 GT3 at JZM and any ideas on servicing issues/costs/insurance compared to standard GT3? Although it's got what many regard the ultimate engine upgrade it's going to give me the debt of a small far flung country if it goes poop, is it worth it Question

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reliability will be fine. The bottom end can take 450BHP without any modification. Mannings are quite mod-friendly (I should know!) but my engine is standard. I can't see that it would load the insurance too heavily but a quick call would confirm. Servicing is going to be cheaper than standard because the discs are going to last a decent amount of time.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mannings seem like a good bunch...just sorted out my insurance with them (moved over from Marsh/Aviva)
...unlimited track day cover big selling point. Laughing
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