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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject: Old v New Cayenne Reply with quote

Some images of the new Cayenne in the car park that reminds me I have the old model. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the new one smaller than yours? I think the later design is slightly better.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is actually bigger, certainly it has slightly more legroom in the back.

Probably bad camera angle / pictures.

The new design is better, sleeker profile when you see them up close.

Its never going to be the best looking. Great to drive and ok off road.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's slightly longer, narrower and much lighter (something like 180kgs!)

Length
4846mm New
4782mm Old

Width
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
It's longer, but much lighter (something like 180kgs!)


I wonder from where? I'm guessing bonnet, doors and tailgate made of aluminium, most suspension components and more engine components than before? Gearbox casing from Aluminium? 180kgs is a heck of a lot.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't tell anyone, but the first one was made to be a proper off-roader, this one isn't.

The drive systems (including old gearbox and heavy-duty 4WD mechanicals, low range gearbox and locking diffs) and complex suspension have been jettisoned to save almost 10% weight.

The Cayenne S sheds 180kg even though it adds an additonal 70kg more standard equipment!

A new production process for the doors saves 39kg, ditching the transfer case with its low speed gearing 50+kg. Aluminium chassis components shaves a further 16kg. The optical biased wiring loom is 10kg lighter.

The Cayenne’s bodyshell uses "smart steel" for the body structure (variable thickness and welding techniques) with an aluminum bonnet, doors/tailgate.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Don't tell anyone, but the first one was made to be a proper off-roader, this one isn't.


Don't tell anyone, DMS have altered the boost on my Turbo S. Goes like the wind, faster than the new turbo. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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