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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: FAQ, How to add radiator bumper grills to a 996 ... Reply with quote

EDITED TO ADD SOME GUIDANCE ON PU REMOVAL

Inspired more by a chunky stone-chip based replacement rad bill, than wanting to copy the gen2's (finally) standard fitment, I have added grills to my car.


RECIPE:
Bumper off (lights out is optional)
Make rough cardboard templates
Cut out mesh to size (tin snips)
Form into shape around vent aperture (by hand)
Fix in place with small tie-wraps (cable ties)

OPTIONAL:
Dinitrol 4010 (S) coat rads and a/c heat exchangers, any other metal surfaces that take your fancy!
Cut small (20mm) corner aperture for small dirt/debris to escape from air channels.

£20
http://www.bestautobits.com/categories/Car-Exterior-Accessories/Car-Exterior-Grill-Mesh/

£15
http://www.rejel.com/rejel-store/categoryid/25/list/1/level/a/productid/9438.aspx


I forgot to get close ups or fitted on car (before it went off for its PSE bypass and now it's at the detailers Embarassed )


Edited: to update Rejel link which had been changed on their website


PU REMOVAL:


Video:

Open Youtube Page


Fixing locations:



List of images (attached in 2017 after Virgin Media lost the original images I hosted):

1.) 997.2 GT3 OEM grilles
2.) Bumper Off
3.) Masks on mesh
4.) Rough cuts
5.) Mesh fitted (formed and cable tied)
6.) Finished (rear)
7.) Finished (front)
8.) Air channels
9.) Corner
10.) New corner vent (side-cutter)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work Thumb

I'll hopefully find the time to do mine.

Any pics of the bumper back on the car Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I forgot to get close ups or fitted on car (before it went off for its PSE bypass and now it's at the detailers Embarassed )
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good write up and welcome to the Grill Club... Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuart wrote:
welcome to the Grill Club... Thumb


... I'll have the pate followed by the lobster, a bottle of chablis and a bottle of sparkling mineral water.

Thank you.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Stuart wrote:
welcome to the Grill Club... Thumb


... I'll have the pate followed by the lobster, a bottle of chablis and a bottle of sparkling mineral water.

Thank you.


You asked for it

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



That is indecently clean in there. You aren't getting out enough!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 - Just out of interest why does your car seem to have a centre rad? Is it because yours is a tiptronic? Dont know
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

choatie wrote:
GT4 - Just out of interest why does your car seem to have a centre rad? Is it because yours is a tiptronic? Dont know


X51 power kit, includes the centre rad...
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard,

My car has been locked up indoors since November 11th (when it was serviced and washed)

Out of the cotton wool last Weekend for grill treatment (although that involved all of 20ftx2 in and out of garage), last Wednesday for it's PSE bypass (to and from Essex on the M25 mostly), then Friday off to KDSKeltec for a detail (1/4 round M25 to Gillingham).

Once the weather has changed I will get out more.

Its first proper "outing" will be Waddesdon (although that probably depends on the rain holding off ...)
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, the "mouth" on that pufferfish look-a-like is the X51 centre water cooling rad (for extra engine cooling).

Choatie, you're right that a Tip has a centre rad aswell, but in that case the rad is fitted for transmission cooling (via an inboard ATF to coolant heat exchanger)
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tbrown wrote:
GT4 wrote:
Stuart wrote:
welcome to the Grill Club... Thumb


... I'll have the pate followed by the lobster, a bottle of chablis and a bottle of sparkling mineral water.

Thank you.


You asked for it



TB


Thanks. I was hoping for something more up-market (that sounds odd when referring to a Turbo BBQ!)

No one's eating off my tea-tray/two-tier cake rack!



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
tbrown wrote:
GT4 wrote:
Stuart wrote:
welcome to the Grill Club... Thumb


... I'll have the pate followed by the lobster, a bottle of chablis and a bottle of sparkling mineral water.

Thank you.


You asked for it



TB


Thanks. I was hoping for something more up-market (that sounds odd when referring to a Turbo BBQ!)

No one's eating off my tea-tray/two-tier cake rack!


Aha! THAT's what that ticking noise is I can hear at the back when I get out after a spirited run. Chicken ticker! It don't smell too good though - maybe rubber chicken ticker?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Inspiration Reply with quote

Thanks for posting this thread.

Since my car is away getting steam cleaned and waxed )bumpers off etc., I saw this thread and decided to go ahead on my Mk1 GT3. Hopefully the results will be spot on.

When you used Dinitrol on the rads, did you mask off the rad mesh?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Inspiration Reply with quote

Lavazza wrote:
Thanks for posting this thread.

Since my car is away getting steam cleaned and waxed )bumpers off etc., I saw this thread and decided to go ahead on my Mk1 GT3. Hopefully the results will be spot on.

When you used Dinitrol on the rads, did you mask off the rad mesh?

Thanks

Mark


Hi Mark,
how you enjoying the 3 ??
Who is doing your under body waxing ?? And long is it taking ?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:49 am    Post subject: Progress on GT3 Reply with quote

Hi Daniel

Not driven the car in ages - initially due to weather/salt, now because it's in bits! nooo

However, I found a really top guy to do the work on my car http://www.cumbriacarstorage.co.uk/. He's called Neil McGurk, and from first acquaintance I knew that I'd trust him to work on my car (especially after I saw the work he's done on his own MKII Jag and MGA which are deeply impressive).

The front/rear bumpers, wheel arch lines and undertrays came off. The car has been properly steamcleaned underneath and put in a climate controlled garage to dry properly. The wax is being applied with a gun/compressor, so can be directed with precision and vapourises to a fine spray/mist. The engine and gearbox is being trated with Dinitrol 4010, and elsewhere Dinitrol 3125/Waxoyl. I must stress - it's not being randomly covered in wax though - it's in specific/vulnerable areas etc.

The car was virtually pristine beneath the plastic bits, and there was evidence of the car being waxed before (I have an invoice for this from an OPC in the cars history), although hadn't been disassembled to the same extent previously. It looked as if the car had been dry stored and little used on salty roads, if at all (apart from the last few weeks when it needed to be driven up from London, and then driven a few miles locally out of necessity rather than having fun).

Currently waiting for parts from the Porsche Centre - just replacement clips and screws, that sort of thing and ofcourse the grill (black) - do you have one fitted?

Becasuse Neil's just set up his business at new premises (in a stunning location), he asked if I'd be willing to let him use pics of the work on my car to be used as advertising. I'm happy for him to do this, and as a result, the work will cost me much less (perhaps less than half) the real cost.

When it's all finished I will get some pics together and post a thread.

Looking forward to getting the car back and using in better weather, and look forward to meeting up with some 911Uk members in the coming months.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Inspiration Reply with quote

Lavazza wrote:
When you used Dinitrol on the rads, did you mask off the rad mesh?

Thanks

Mark


Not sure what you mean.

The mesh is fitted on the rear of the bumper and I sprayed the rads "naked" on the car whilst bumper was off.

There is no other mesh.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Clarification Reply with quote

Sorry should have made that clearer - when I referrred to masking off the mesh, I didn't mean the protective mesh grill but the mesh that physically forms the face of the radiators themselves.

What prompted my question was when you wrote:
"Dinitrol coat rads and a/c heat exchangers".

My car has been put back together now, and have had the rads waxed too, but not the mesh fronts (is 'matrix' the correct term?) these were masked off first.

Don't know if this helps clarify what I meant.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A job well done! Meshed mine last year, definitely works well.

I used AC Ryan hex mesh painted black http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=4368&cat=0&page=2#tabs
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Clarification Reply with quote

Lavazza wrote:
Sorry should have made that clearer - when I referrred to masking off the mesh, I didn't mean the protective mesh grill but the mesh that physically forms the face of the radiators themselves.

What prompted my question was when you wrote:
"Dinitrol coat rads and a/c heat exchangers".

My car has been put back together now, and have had the rads waxed too, but not the mesh fronts (is 'matrix' the correct term?) these were masked off first.

Don't know if this helps clarify what I meant.

Cheers

Mark


I sprayed everything in sight!

The Dinitrol dries to a clear hard skin, think hairspray thickness, but permanent and anticorrosive properties.

The rads/matrix just have a clear shiney finish now.
 
  
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