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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the pics are from the engine bay box on the left hand side.

Chet - that extinguisher is a revelation. I will almost certainly get one or two of these.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checked with OPC Bolton this morning- my car hasn’t had the work done, booked in for next week

Thanks for the heads up
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this problem affect all model years? Mine is a 1997 car and I can’t see any paperwork to suggest it has had a recall/ been inspected.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pierrebear wrote:
Yes, the pics are from the engine bay box on the left hand side.

Chet - that extinguisher is a revelation. I will almost certainly get one or two of these.


Had a look at mine. Couldn't find anything resembling the offending part number on my sticker, the number on the sticker on the wires is still 993.607.016.15 0/1
plus my vin comes up clear on the online recall checker. so i guess that leaves me in the clear.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The info given in the link earlier in the thread suggests 1995 & 1996 model years
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodgy wiring should have been picked up during my engine rebuild (see my other thread) but I thought this still worth checking. Cambridge OPC said my March 1996 car doesn't need this recall. But it does need a recall for an updated horn relay (which they can't just give me to fit myself). Doesn't sound particularly serious, but it's free so why not.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ridders wrote:
The info given in the link earlier in the thread suggests 1995 & 1996 model years


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pierrebear wrote:

Chet - that extinguisher is a revelation. I will almost certainly get one or two of these.

I'm tempted, too. Just wish to know how effective they really are first... would preferred to have seen it demo'd on a real (controlled) fire.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask and you shall receive, Chet: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ktsEv1abZWc&time_continue=2
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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........ plus my VIN comes up clear on the online recall checker. so I guess that leaves me in the clear.
Thanks
J


Hi J

What link were you using for the online checker?
I know of this one: Linky - but this states "The search tool will return information on applicable recalls made from calendar year 1999 until today.

Thing is - I don't know if this means cars post 1999, or any recalls announced post 1999 - and when was the wiring harness recall made available?

Were you using the same link?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick update on this; I've rung my local OPC in Colchester and they can't help or tell me anything about the recall. I've called PC Reading and they too have no note of it, their recall system was replaced in 2008 apparently. Though they're going to try and find out for me.

A little worrying that a seemingly safety related recall isn't proving easy to get an answer on....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another update as they've just called back, apparently the wiring loom was replaced/updated in Jan '96, and as mine was built in the May it isn't affected, so might help others (aligns with what Stuart had been told earlier in the thread).

For reference mine was registered in the September, so might give an indication to others of time gap between registration and build.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just spoke to someone else at Porsche Bolton, it's now showing that the work was completed in 2010 at OPC Leeds. This makes sense as the previous owner used Leeds for quite a bit of work.

I've just checked some invoices & there is Warranty Invoice for July 2010 showing:

LAB W301 Net £376.83 (this is labour I think)

P000.043.204.61 053801/REPAIR KIT WIRI RG3 Net £53.25

So at least you guys can go back to your OPC with a part number
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyS wrote:
jhrfc wrote:
........ plus my VIN comes up clear on the online recall checker. so I guess that leaves me in the clear.
Thanks
J


Hi J

What link were you using for the online checker?
I know of this one: Linky - but this states "The search tool will return information on applicable recalls made from calendar year 1999 until today.

Thing is - I don't know if this means cars post 1999, or any recalls announced post 1999 - and when was the wiring harness recall made available?

Were you using the same link?

Yes it was, but the tech note was dated 2001 , so I thought it should be good n there. Tbh as I’ve actually check the loom label I think I should be ok.
That’s all Porsche would do (if they could find nd the way no!)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:06 pm    Post subject: Engine Loom TSB Reply with quote

As this is a critical issue, please be aware that the TSB info in this thread was for US market cars, and most of the loom numbers quoted are not applicable to R0W cars. The only one to appear in RoW PET is 993 607 016 04, listed for '95 MY M64.05/06.

Without sight of the RoW TSB, and being aware of these issues (first seen on a US market car imported to UK a long while ago ..) it would seem prudent to check that the engine loom is a part number ending in 1X and/or visit your friendly PC.

Hope this helps, cheers, Maurice.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see you on the forum, Maurice! I checked my loom number and it is 993.607.016.04. Mine is a UK car and all seems fine for the time being. Whilst annoying that it hadn't been addressed prior to my purchasing it, I'm booking this in with Swindon OPC in the near future.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pierrebear wrote:
Nice to see you on the forum, Maurice! I checked my loom number and it is 993.607.016.04. Mine is a UK car and all seems fine for the time being. Whilst annoying that it hadn't been addressed prior to my purchasing it, I'm booking this in with Swindon OPC in the near future.


I'm pretty sure yours will need replacing pierrebear as its within the range of defective looms. Mine is an early 94 car and my loom is 993.607.016.14-0a with a written on date of 31/05/2002 so obviously replaced.
 



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, ollster- thought as much. Will get it booked in but will have to wait until early September now before can get the car over to the mainland.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would get it in with some urgency, and not drive it at all if you can help it. Is the insulation crumbling in the engine compartment ?

I have seen looms where there are lengths of bare copper. All it takes is for the wrong ones to rub together, and you could lose your car (happened to me once with a brand new VW GTI). If the car has been regularly subjected to a hot climate the problem is exacerbated ..

Someone alerted me this topic had appeared, so I registered especially to respond.

HTH, cheers, Maurice

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roughly 7-8yrs ago I had my engine taken out to have work carried out, the engine wiring harness was in a terrible mess, bare wires showing where the heat had destroyed the insulation, the mileage at that time was around 87k.
After checking with the main dealer regarding the recall, it appears my harness had already been replaced, so even the replacement harness had broken down.
A new harness was sourced and fitted.

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