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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:52 am    Post subject: 997 facelift specs! Reply with quote

found it over on rennlist

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=426087

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As posted in the PCGB

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Start of Production C2 (S) LHD / RHD 21.04.2008, C4 (S) / Targa 4 (S) LHD / RHD 05.05.2008, C2 (S) / C4 (S) / Targa 4 (S) USA KW 23/2008

Market Launch C2 (S) Coupé / Cabrio EU, LHD / RHD 05.07.2008, C2 (S) Coupé / Cabrio USA / Canada, 20.09.2008, RoW LHD/RHD, C4 (S) Coupé / Cabrio, Targa 4 (S) Worldwide 25.10.2008

Models Available

• 911 Carrera Coupé / Cabriolet
• 911 Carrera S Coupé / Cabriolet
• 911 Carrera 4 Coupé / Cabriolet
• 911 Carrera 4S Coupé / Cabriolet
• 911 Targa 4
• 911 Targa 4S

• New engine generation with direct fuel injection (DFI):
- 3.6-l boxer engine with 345 hp (+20 hp), 390 Nm (+20 Nm)
- 3.8-l boxer engine with 385 hp (+30 hp), 420 Nm (+20 Nm)
Increased performance with significant reduction in fuel consumption and
CO2 emissions; all engines comply with stringent EU5 regulations (see Appendix 2)

• Optimised manual gearbox, upshift indicator in instrument cluster for economical
driving (standard for manual gearbox)
• Self-adjusting clutch now also on 3.6-l models
• Drive-off assist (standard for manual gearbox and PDK)
• Porsche Traction Management (PTM, standard for C4 / Targa 4 models)
• Mechanical limited-slip rear differential (standard for C4 / Targa 4 models)
• Enhanced Porsche Stability Management (PSM) now also with additional functions
for C2 models

• New braking system for 3.6-l models: closed-top calipers, brake disc diameters:
330 mm front (+12 mm), 330 mm rear (+31 mm), thicker brake discs at rear
(+4 mm)
• Standard wheels with new design: 18-inch Carrera IV wheel, 19-inch Carrera S II
wheel
• Larger wheel width and offset at rear for 18-inch Carrera IV wheels on C2 models
(10.5J x 18 ET 60)

• Bi-Xenon headlights with cleaning system now also standard on 3.6-l models
• LED daytime running lights and side lights, conventional foglights discontinued
• LED taillights with new design

• New Porsche Communication Management (PCM):
Central multimedia system including:
- 6.5-inch TFT colour display (touchscreen)
- Radio with RDS twin tuner and scan/phase diversity for optimum reception
- CD/DVD drive, MP3-compatible, supports audio output from audio/video DVDs
• Restyled front bumper with larger air intakes
• Restyled and separate auxiliary front light units above air intakes
• New rear bumper
• New, semi-integrated stainless steel tailpipes
• Larger exterior mirrors with new design
• Additional differentiation on all-wheel drive models: rear light-strip (coloured in red), black trim at base of rear bumper, titanium paint finish on front air intake surrounds and horizontal grilles
• Optimised hood system on Cabriolet models

• New colour range:
- Porsche Racing Green Metallic (metallic colour) replaces Forest Green Metallic
- Aqua Blue Metallic (metallic colour) replaces Cobalt Blue Metallic
- Nordic Gold Metallic (special colour) replaces Dark Olive Metallic
- Cream White (special colour) replaces Slate Grey Metallic
• Front centre console with new styling, black paint finish, modified air-conditioning
controls, fewer switches
• All standard steering wheels with rim in smooth-finish leather, machine-sewn seam
and airbag module with soft-touch paint finish
• New controls for hood/roof (Cabriolet, Targa / worldwide) and window lifts (NAFTA markets
only)

• Uprated vehicle key
• 7-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) (250) incl. new 3-spoke sports steering
wheel for PDK and new, specially designed gear selector
• Sport Chrono Package Plus in conj. w. PDK: new functions - launch control, racetrack
gearshift strategy and additional ‘Sport Plus’ button (640)
• Mechanical limited-slip rear differential (only for C2 models, standard for C4 /
Targa 4 models) (220)
• PASM sports suspension (incl. 20 mm lowering) and mechanical limited-slip rear differential, also offered for USA (P17) (only for Coupé models, limited-slip differential for allwheel drive models as standard)

• Uprated Tyre Pressure Monitoring (TPM) with faster tyre pressure display (482)
• Dynamic cornering lights (603)
• Seat ventilation for standard and comfort seats (541)
• Steering wheel heating, only in conj. w. seat heating and PDK (345)
- Navigation module with hard-disc drive (672)
- Voice control with whole-word input (671)
- GSM quad-band telephone module (Bluetooth® SAP) (666)
- Cordless active handset for telephone module (669)
- Mobile-phone preparation with console (Bluetooth® HFP) (618)
- Mobile-phone preparation (Bluetooth® HFP) (619)
- Integrated CD/DVD autochanger (6-disc), MP3-compatible (693)
- Universal audio interface for connecting external audio devices, e.g., Apple iPod® or USB stick in centre console storage compartment (AUX, USB and iPod® ports).
iPod® and USB stick operated via PCM (870)
- BOSE® Surround Sound System, 385 Watts, supports 5.1 discrete surround sound
format (680
- TV tuner (analogue & digital reception DVB-T) (676)
• New multifunction steering wheels for PDK in smooth-finish leather (844), macassar
(847), carbon (845) and Aluminium Look (XPU)
• Airbag module in smooth-finish leather as additional feature in optional leather
interior
• Sycamore wood options discontinued
• Optional external antenna relocated to front right-hand wing on all models (461)

• PCNA: XM satellite radio (SDARS) (686)
• PJ: Extended factory-fitted sat-nav preparation (Japan) plus Clarion aftermarket
navigation system from VPC (standard)
• PGCN: Factory-fitted sat-nav preparation (China) plus Panasonic aftermarket
navigation system in PCM from Porsche dealer (optional, from week 45/08 )
 



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder whether the facelift C2 will be a real alternative to pre-facelift C2S with xenon's as standard and power boost?
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garethbzg wrote:
found it over on rennlist

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=426087



Amazing find on Rennlist Gareth !

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=257643&page=&fpart=80&vc=1

The next question is what are they going to do with the GT3 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some nice mods... I especially like the sound of the full width rear reflector for the 4wds.

Targa 4s with all the trimmings inc PDK could well make a 'perfect car' (see my other thread) but a little out of budget...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

REAR LIGHT STRIP ON 4WD MODELS!!!!!!!!!!

woot return of the tong baby!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what is more exciting, the 385 Watt Bose or the 7 Speed PDK Gearbox !
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

385bhp for S !

7 speed PDK with launch control and "race track gearshift strategy" !

LSD !

Optimised gearshift indicator for economy....... Floor
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so this is what it should look like....




an another from the net.....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

911uk News wrote:
Garethbzg wrote:
found it over on rennlist

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=426087



Amazing find on Rennlist Gareth !

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=257643&page=&fpart=80&vc=1

The next question is what are they going to do with the GT3 Very Happy


Well I'm first on the list at my local OPC so I'll soon find out hopefully. Smile

PDF here if you want it. http://www.zen89393.zen.co.uk/Archive/Images/General/437909-MY-09-productdetails.pdf
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the power increases seem to reflect the new direct injection engine tech introduced across the range

- 3.6l 345 bhp = 95 bhp/litre
- 3.8l 385 bhp = 101 bhp/litre

although looks like they have still kept the slightly 3.6 detuned to create the model range....

so an extra 30 horse for the 3.8, so what does that mean for the 3.6 415bhp GT3

MUST mean a 3.8 on the cards with close to 440+bhp ?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sundeep wrote:


MUST mean a 3.8 on the cards with close to 440+bhp ?


That's what I understand to be the case. Just speculating of course but that is the general consensus from the enthusiast and my local OPC. I think you're close with that prediction.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and if you look down the list of updates for the range, apart from the add on's

the other big 2 Question will be the braking and aerodynamic system, to see if there any changes ?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to see a pic of the rear reflector Cool Any of you photoshop gurus care to give it a go?

The direct injection engines will produce more power with less fuel consumption.

Love the 'economy change up' light too Floor

I assume though with the £ so weak, new 911 prices will be going up. :cry:
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now on 6speed, worth saving before Porsche get to it Hand

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1812812&postcount=57

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Some interesting posts from Rennteam lately...

Images from the new Porsche's Electronic Catalogue for Rear reflector stripe, new engine, new headlights, and pdk!


That rear red stripe for the 4wd models looks like a stick on !
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want one!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was a shame when they took the reflector stripe off on the 997, it looked very good on the C4S 996 Thumb
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Porsche 997 Facelift (starting with MY 2009):
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Porsche 911 Carrera 2 and Carrera S Coupe & Cabriolet market launch Europe, LHD & RHD on July 5th 2008.
USA/Canada % Rest of World on September 20th 2008.

Porsche 911 Carrera 4/4S, Cabriolet 4/4S and Targa 4/4S
market launch worldwide(!) on October 25th 2008.

All 997 Carrera/Targa engines are getting new DFI(direct fuel injection) engines with 3.6 litres and 3.8 litres capacity.
The 3.6 l engine for the standard Carrera/4/Targa 4 models has 345 HP and 390 Nm torque.
The 3.8 l engine for the sportier Carrera S/4S/Targa 4S models has 385 HP and 420 Nm torque.

The manual gearbox gets an upshift indicator which is intended mainly for saving fuel rather than a sportier gear change.
New optional PDK(Porsche Doppelkupplung) 7-speed shifting system which incl. a newly designed 3-spoke steering wheel too.
The Drive-off-Assist, well known from the 997 GT2, will now be a standard option for all 997 models, no matter if manual gearbox or PDK.
PTM, the well known traction management from the 997 Turbo, will be standard on all 4WD models.
Same applies to the limited slip differential which also will be available as an option for all 2WD models.

The 997 models with the smaller 3.6 l engine also get a new and overworked brake system(330 mm brake disks front and rear).

Bi-Xenon lights are now a standard option on ALL 997 models.
Same applies to the new LED daytime running/side lights in the front and the newly shaped LED taillights.

Other improvements: third generation PCM(Porsche Communication Management) with a large 6.5'' touchscreen, 30GB HDD navigation module(optional) and a quadband GSM phone. For the first time, Porsche includes Bluetooth and MP3 support for the 6-CD changer, something a lot of people were waiting for.
The new PCM system will also have an USB and iPod port and again...hallelujah...you can listen to music from your iPod and even an USB stick now.
A TV-Tuner will also be available(analogue and digital TV) but mainly for DVB-T reception which isn't working in the USA. A voice control for the PCM will also be available as an option.

The interior has been slightly changed too, there are fewer switches to switch, the new black paint finish looks much better than the cheap silver look and the A/C controls have been modified too. Other minor changes like new windows lifts, an improved car key, etc. should also be mentioned.

For sporty drivers and track addicts, Porsche has improved the Sport Chrono Package. There are new features available now like a launch control or a special gearshift mapping(PDK) for track racing. The PASM sport suspension also involves a 20 mm lowering now, unfortunately ONLY for the Coupe, not the Cabriolet.

It may be also worth mentioning that one of my favourite options in summertime, seat ventilation, is now also available as an option for the 997, a heating system for the steering wheel is also available now as an option.

Some minor cosmetic changes have been applied to the rear bumper and front part but with the exception of the newly shaped LED taillights and the slightly different integration of the exhaust pipes, everything is still the same, the 997 shape hasn't changed at all.

For those 997 Turbo, GT3 and GT2 owners who seem to be afraid of a design change: this year, only the 997 Carrera/Cabriolet/Targa gets a facelift, don't worry.

And while I'm writing this, the first facelifted 997 have already left the factory. Hallelujah all the way...again. (RT)

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: wow Reply with quote

looking forward to taking delivery in september like never before.
a dvd too! sounds as though my 10 month old son can watch 'Cars' while I head out to discover Swedish B roads playing with the sport button Very Happy .
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel wrote:
I think it was a shame when they took the reflector stripe off on the 997, it looked very good on the C4S 996 Thumb


But part of me quite likes the rear reflector strip on the 9964S being unique to the watercooled 911s.

Anyway, a PDK equipped Targa 4S is now at the top of my lottery-win shopping list!
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