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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick w wrote:
Nice one Jon !! That'll help Roro, finding out where
it all goes.... Wink


Yep the 2 sections uploaded are from the DVD and contain the educational parts. The rest of it is John doing laps of the ring in his STI from various angles some with head cam. I hate cams the video out put just makes me feel sick as cam bouncers about Confused So wont be uploading.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy Betamax, those were filmed a while ago!

A much better instructional video for anyone without a time machine is this:

http://youtu.be/uWW0epQtOfg

Some nice contemporary pointers in there. For those that don't know, the large dots on the track are painted by the BMW driver training school. They can get a bit worn but they are there to see. The cones on the apices won't be present.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of onboard videos of Sabine Schmitz during VLN race and TF laps.....
watching videos is good to memorised the bends but it doesn't prepare you for the real thing. I am going in May again .......can't wait.
Remember treat the place with respect , doesn't matter what you are driving someone will be faster than you there. Don't time yourself but concentrate on your lines, you will know when you've done a good lap.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys, lots of good stuff in those videos. The BMW one is really good, but the other one has all the corner names which is useful.

Do they put out cone markers for the DN trackdays, and any other markers? I've no chance in hell of remembering things like 'aim for 5 metres before the kerb ends then turn' or 'aim for the bush before you turn in'!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.... About 50 laps in on GT6 and still no idea where the bloody track goes Rolling Eyes PC
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another instructional video:

http://youtu.be/uaX0qtFs1vM
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No markers - except the BMW driver school dots.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.... About 50 laps in on GT6 and still no idea where the bloody track goes Rolling Eyes PC


You need to stop crashing! Is it true on the playstation that you have to go back to the beginning each time you crash? I seem to remember thats how it worked, i learnt the first half of the track really well Laughing just remember there is no reset button in real life... Laughing
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.... About 50 laps in on GT6 and still no idea where the bloody track goes Rolling Eyes PC


Another 50 and you'll have some idea. As for marker most of the reference points in the 2 videos Agtlaw posted are in the game so look out for them.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senoj wrote:
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.... About 50 laps in on GT6 and still no idea where the bloody track goes Rolling Eyes PC


You need to stop crashing! Is it true on the playstation that you have to go back to the beginning each time you crash? I seem to remember thats how it worked, i learnt the first half of the track really well Laughing just remember there is no reset button in real life... Laughing


Nope, you start from the point you 'left the track'. I'm now following the strategy of no faster than 70/80mph own the straight-ish bits, then slowing right down to no more than around 40 on anything that looks like it might be a bend! I'll probably stick to that for the real thing too...

AGT thanks for the links, will check them out Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.... About 50 laps in on GT6 and still no idea where the bloody track goes Rolling Eyes PC


Another 50 and you'll have some idea. As for marker most of the reference points in the 2 videos Agtlaw posted are in the game so look out for them.


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The secret to learning the circuit is to drive slower, not faster. If trying to get benefit from video games you want something with little power that is a doodle to drive. Which is true in the real world too... Wink

If it is all a blur, you are going to take a long time to take it in.
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The secret to learning the circuit is to drive slower, not faster. If trying to get benefit from video games you want something with little power that is a doodle to drive. Which is true in the real world too... Wink

If it is all a blur, you are going to take a long time to take it in.


I've mainly been using the Jaguar XKR thing (but mainly because it's the first car I could find in something that looked like Riviera Blue Embarassed )
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
Disco wrote:
The secret to learning the circuit is to drive slower, not faster. If trying to get benefit from video games you want something with little power that is a doodle to drive. Which is true in the real world too... Wink

If it is all a blur, you are going to take a long time to take it in.


I've mainly been using the Jaguar XKR thing (but mainly because it's the first car I could find in something that looked like Riviera Blue Embarassed )


lol..i've got this picture of both you and Jon, sitting on stools in your
living rooms, spending hours and hours lapping the ring....

Floor

No worries, you'll be just fine, it will be a bit daunting at first..well ok,
very daunting..but you're there to have fun, it's not a test !!!!.

Grin
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick w wrote:
Roro wrote:
Disco wrote:
The secret to learning the circuit is to drive slower, not faster. If trying to get benefit from video games you want something with little power that is a doodle to drive. Which is true in the real world too... Wink

If it is all a blur, you are going to take a long time to take it in.


I've mainly been using the Jaguar XKR thing (but mainly because it's the first car I could find in something that looked like Riviera Blue Embarassed )


lol..i've got this picture of both you and Jon, sitting on stools in your
living rooms, spending hours and hours lapping the ring....

Floor

No worries, you'll be just fine, it will be a bit daunting at first..well ok,
very daunting..but you're there to have fun, it's not a test !!!!.

Grin


At this rate I really do wish I'd been spending hours and hours on it! Surprised Smile

How many laps do you reckon I should aim for on my first ever trip to the 'ring? I'm thinking about a dozen slow laps (15min? ... I've no idea) sounds about right to get value out of my first day there
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Don't aim for any number of laps...you'll no doubt come out with us on
the sighting laps, and no doubt you'll want to sit in on a few other pax laps
too. The ring is very tiring...so two laps on the bounce will be enough for
you to take in at any one time. We generally do between 17-20 laps, very
occasionaly a few more. Wink
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Ok cool, good to manage expectation around this. Great, yes, a pax lap or two would be appreciated if anyone is willing to put up with me thumbsup
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Roro wrote:
Ok cool, good to manage expectation around this. Great, yes, a pax lap or two would be appreciated if anyone is willing to put up with me thumbsup


No worries, we all muck in !! Cool
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Another vid to watch


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:

How many laps do you reckon I should aim for on my first ever trip to the 'ring? I'm thinking about a dozen slow laps (15min? ... I've no idea) sounds about right to get value out of my first day there


As a general rule of thumb - 8-12 driven laps is a good tally for a novice on a first trip IMHO, and you should aim to spend at least as many laps as a passenger if you possibly can. The important bit is that you should only be driving 1 or 2 laps at a time as otherwise your brain can kind of frazzle with information overload and for most people they just become reactive and don't soak in the knowledge if they stay out. Passenger laps in slower cars with more experienced drivers are always recommended too.

It is important not to set any objectives beyond a safe trip though. Think about how you feel when you go out and when you complete a lap - are you really good to go again or best to come in, take a breather and some water and then go back out.
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