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Dr Strange
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip,

The chassis number is 9113600694 and the current owner is the 2nd I believe (although has owned since the car was a year or two old I think....mid-1970's). It looks totally original and has covered 6044km. Not sure if you can tell from the chassis number if likely to be a lightweight or not? My friend is not sure about what paperwork is available as she isn;t going home until a few weeks time when she will try and get it all together. Its a sort of 'time capsule' scenario, I don't think the car has been toiuched much since her father died so possibly a few years? Bob.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOR SALE:

Grandmother, 76 years old, white hair, very good condition, loves children.
Car purchase forces reluctant sale.

Sensible offers around 125-150.000.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr Strange

Bad news im afraid, Ive checed the serial number its actually a poor quality copy, but I will take it off your hands for you for 15K as a favour Very Happy
as I can use some of the parts etc.....

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by Martyn1 on 11 January 2007

Dr Strange Bad news im afraid, Ive checed the serial number its actually a poor quality copy, but I will take it off your hands for you for 15K as a favour Very Happy
as I can use some of the parts etc.....

ROFLMAO, Bob.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Sale:

Right arm. Good condition, rarely used, one careful owner.Willing to throw in my high teeth.
125000. No offers.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tricky one this...

Assuming I were in the position to buy, I would tread very carefully and retain expert advice, simply because as Philip points out, the market and detail differences at that level are very complex and you need to know exactly what you are buying.

Also, the family should retain expert advice when selling in order to get the best price as there is an RS frenzy out there at the moment.

But in principle, a great opportunity to buy an investment that can go sideways as well as up!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were the seller of this car, I would want to ensure that the car went somewhere where it would be cherished by an enthusiast, driven, and maintained money-no-object. Not just to the first buyer with E150k.

With regards to establishing the car's provenance, it might be worth contacting PCGB to see if they can help in any way.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by Fuchs on 11 January 2007
pjmt - why do you respond to my post by saying "in euros maybe" and then continue on to say exactly what i had said that good cars are around 150k........
i take it from you final sentence that you are a dealer of some sort.........




Sorry - you seem to have taken offence - was simply clarifying that very few 2.7RST's would be worth 150,000 (pounds sterling) but Euros, yes - the exception of course being the prototype etc.

Not a dealer - an owner of a 2.7RST RHD, first 500 - this one:



...and the Early 911 Register Secretary of the PCGB - I get about five enquiries a week from people wanting to find an early car.

Philip

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by Dr Strange on 11 January 2007
Philip,
The chassis number is 9113600694



My condolences to your friend's family for their loss - it's important such a precious car (with this very low mileage) goes to to a good home - #0694 was an original Italian market car (country code JV) should have engine number 6630701, is an M472 Touring, colour should be Light Ivory - #1111 (one of 160 in this colour) with black vinyl and cord interior (#12), no options built in February of 1973 formerly owned by Cornelia Bardini, Lucca, Italy

If the family would like to consider selling the car, I believe I know of three people who would, subject to inspection, purchase the car - myself included.

Very much hope to hear from you

Philip

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: With regards to establishing the car's provenance, it might be worth contacting PCGB to see if they can help in any way.



Adrien - this will not be on David Gilhooley's radar as it's never been owned in the UK - Die Freundschen der Carrera RS in Germany would probably know her - along with John Starkey etc.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good call Philip!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by Butzi on 11 January 2007
Philip,
you've had both 993 RS and 2.7RS, how would you compare them on a track? I know they're totally different but would be interesting to compare and contrast. Have you managed to drive the 2.7RS on trackdays? or is it just too rare and valuable to track?



I'm very lucky to have a GT3 Cup car for serious track work and would never 'seriously' track a 2.7RS - fun to tootle them round at 6/10ths though. I've owned two 993RS track cars and they're beautiful, well balanced, emotive machines - completely unlike the '3' - but nowhere near as competent or visceral as a '3' or '3 Cup'.

If you check out this month's Total 911 you'll see me throwing my yellow peril around Silverstone with the owner of the stunning 911R3 - it was a great joy to have Silverstone to ourselves for an hour with the camera car - we kept pulling back to give ourselves some space, then hooning the cars to catch him up - hence some of the amazing tracking shots in the article.

The 993 RS is a completely different animal BUT if you consider them both in their time period context (i.e.: 1973 and 1995 / 6) they are very similar - identical even.

In todays terms - the 993RS is infinitely more competent - much more low end power, much better balance - but I'm so in love with my 2.7RS I'm in the process of buying a replica (but well done, with a genuine RS engine) to track Very Happy

I ended up doing 50 miles a year in my 993RS which wasn't really fair - so it's gone to a wonderful guy who adores it and uses her regularly - which is what she deserves. I'm out in my 2.7RS most weeks when the weather's good - she's tucked up from November until March or April at the very earliest.

The main thing is - they're both REAL Porsche Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr Strange - More pics please! Any of the side profile?

Would be nice to see black decals on white.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip - your cars always look stunning - have you fitted the spoiler and done the wheels on the 3 yet?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by jg on 14 January 2007
Philip - your cars always look stunning - have you fitted the spoiler and done the wheels on the 3 yet?
Jason



Hi Jason - nice to see you on here - yet another '3' comes to 911UK Wink

I've gone with plan 'B' - painted the spoiler body coloured - I REALLY, REALLY like it like this - so the wheels are staying stock - I'll post some pics in a day or so - too windy here to open the garage door!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip have you still got your 959!?

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Quote: Originally posted by Elite on 15 January 2007
Philip have you still got your 959!?


Which one? The prototype Burgundy red - yes. The silver one went to a chap in Switzerland and the red one to an Italian guy.

I really love the prototype - it's such a special car, and it'a had a lot of love and care put into it to get back to good health - but I'm going to prepare her for sale in the next few weeks.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip - out of interest how many porkers have you actually had over the years....and if you added all their values up what would they come to? You've certainly owned some very special cars....

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by jg on 15 January 2007
Philip - out of interest how many porkers have you actually had over the years....and if you added all their values up what would they come to?

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That's the kind of question my wife always asks me! Very Happy


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Quote: Originally posted by jg on 15 January 2007
You've certainly owned some very special cars....


Yes, but I've always kept the very best of them all - the one's I have sold - I've always been careful to know they went on to good homes.

Sometimes I've bought cars to 'rescue' them - like the 959 Prototype - she'd past through several people and never been restored properly - so I've now sorted her out and she goes like a dingbat!

But like I said, the best ones I've always kept Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob - is there any news on this RS? I'd be very keen to have a discussion with the owners Smile

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