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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Prices will be even better in March!


Not necessarily so....the number of "good" ones out there is very small if the experiences of Steve & Daz are anything to go by. At the top end, with good provenance, which is what Steve is looking for prices will remain firm.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with Rob, there arent that many out there, and even fewer for sale,

everyone one that has stuck either at an opc or an indie, has a history or a reason behind it, not one good one sticks.

I bought mine b4 the dealer even had it, and was phoning as they appeared on line, however still took me 3 months to find a good one.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the ones I looked at or found out about had issues, most requiring 5k spent!!

There are some good buys though and prices are softening - maybe just a winter thing though. I still think it makes an excelent buy with a more gently sloping depreciation curve than a standard 996!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with Rob re good ones few and far between and they will always hold their value, the ones that stick have history and stick for a reason,

dont touch is the moral, good ones dont even get to the dealer front forecourt.

would you pay 48k for a poor one with a few miles or, 55k for the right one,

at that sort of money you are going to buy the right one, not the cheap one, so as a result, good ones will be a sound investment.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a comparison, I got mine from an indie in Sept last year. At the time they had 2 GT3's in. The 1st was with them from June 05 & they finally shifted it in January this year. Even to a novice like me it wasn't a good example. Mine they got in mid-week, I 1st looked it over at the weekend, test drove it the next & effectively had it reserved & it was on my drive inside 2 weeks of them getting it. Despite one iffy sill, I think it's a good 'un & had absolutely no trouble with it.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob / Daz.

Of course we all want a good one, low miles, low owners, service history and well speced, aircon etc. As this post suggests the OPC did not deliver the peace of mind it should have and had this been bought privately there could have been some further issues trying to resolve this. There is a mention of many requiring 5k spending, although the one purchased in the end also had many problems.

I have seen a few people asking the forums ' does anyone know this car' and the chances are if they do it will have been on a track, but could still be well looked after. I have seen a lot of cars for sale with a service due in a couple of thousand miles and the warranty about to need renewing. This seems more the norm.

I will probably have a private inspection carried out on my next car and make the agree to purchase on the basis of it checking out.

What would be your tips for anyone purchasing, especially as most would prefer to go private purchase route. In most cases genuine people trust the HPI results as they know nothing mechanically or bodywork wise.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rob / Daz.
Of course we all want a good one, low miles, low owners, service history and well speced, aircon etc. As this post suggests the OPC did not deliver the peace of mind it should have and had this been bought privately there could have been some further issues trying to resolve this. There is a mention of many requiring 5k spending, although the one purchased in the end also had many problems.
I have seen a few people asking the forums ' does anyone know this car' and the chances are if they do it will have been on a track, but could still be well looked after. I have seen a lot of cars for sale with a service due in a couple of thousand miles and the warranty about to need renewing. This seems more the norm.
I will probably have a privateinspection carried out on my next car and make the agree to purchase on the basis of it checking out.
What would be your tips for anyone purchasing, especially as most would prefer to go private purchase route. In most cases genuine people trust the HPI results as they know nothing mechanically or bodywork wise.
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Rich,

if it's a GT3 you are looking at, then ask questions. Go to Titanic, Pistonheads, all over. There are not that many around & many that do have a history will be known by somebody. HPI will tell you nothing. you are looking at a circa 50k car, they will take a lot of damage to write-off. I wouldn't automaticaly discount an accident damaged car, the important thing is how well repaired was it. As Ade mentioned above you can have an accident damaged car returned to good as new state if done properly. Alternatively you could get one like Steve's that was badly done. Track work is not necessarily bad either. As time goes by most will have seen track action. Check the service history. What was done irrespective of the service intervals. Who did it? Car goes regularly to JZM or Parr, then definately been on track, but definately well cared for.

I don;t think there are any hard & fast rules, except caveat emptor (big time).

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of a nice black one that may be coming up for sale....

I would check owner history first and foremost, get the dealer (if an OPC) to print out warranty work and dont trust the HPI - it could have had a big shunt, been repaired badly and you would never know!

Also watch out for Irish cars as they dont have to be registred when written off as far as I know!!

Anyway, one thing someone said to me once... "you buy the seller as much as the car", in other words if that person seems like someone you would trust the you are halfway there!!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buyer beware!

As with any purchase, just use your commonsense. I know they all look wonderful, but to reuse an old saying, dont let the chopper short out the brain!!

It took me 3 months to find the one I wanted and I discounted several from OPCs as well as Independants

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most fastidious owners will have their car serviced by one of the reputable independents. It's a known fact that OPCs know relatively very little about the GT3 compared to the specialists. They are only serviced there out of fear of invalidating the warranty (which JZM and Parr do not). If the car has been serviced/maintained with a specialist, check with them directly to find out about the condition of the car.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree entirely tjhe above.

Had 1 service at the OPC, nice coffeee, nice lounge, even nicer bill. Fortunately they forgot to change thge plugs, which needless to say I had done at Parrs for 30% of the OPC quotation!!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really do fancy something more track focussed!! But will have to wait for a while now!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 3 will be up for sale if I can find a nice RS

14k miles
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Good honest car

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poon you should sell it to me over a 10 year installement plan with 0% interest!!!

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chaaaaritttyyyyy


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu - you've got a nice 3! Make sure it goes to a good home!

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Calling the ghost (of eff) Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Calling the ghost (of eff) Very Happy

Will be a clean sweep of Mod GT3s then!

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poon, you forgot to mention the lambo door conversion and the blue undercar neons

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Poon - Mk1 or Mk2?

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