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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a 7 month old GT3 about 12 months ago, I'm more than happy with it apart from the pccb brakes, which I wouldn't have specced if I'd bought the car from new. Can anyone recommened a complete replacement steel setup (preferably from 1st hand experience). As I'm less than happy at paying what amounts to a new sports bike.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Max,
Contact Steve McHale at JZ Machtech to discuss the floating Alcons. Standard replacement for a lot of GT3ers. I swapped over to these at the beginning of this year and 12k miles later, 15 trackdays later, they are still going strong, no cracking or anything like that. Very very good disc: 360mm solid floater, anti-rattle shims, custom developed between Alcon and JZM. Supposedly should last at least 25-30 trackdays. Fits perfectly with the 6pot calipers.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help will speak to him today.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alcons get my vote as well with Pagid RS29 pads, the other alternative are Brembo's

West Brom ! we're off karting on the 25th Nov at Brum Wheels ! check out the events section

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but although I'm from West Brom I live in Saudi Arabia which is why I struggle getting any usefull advise, so please don't get irate if I seem to be asking the most mundane questions, the local porsche opc are clueless, although very friendly. Still support the mighty west brom though. While I'm at it tyres are past their best(bald) has anyone fitted anything other than michelin pilot sport cups? If so, recommendations would be gratefully accepted.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry but although I'm from West Brom I live in Saudi Arabia which is why I struggle getting any usefull advise, so please don't get irate if I seem to be asking the most mundane questions, the local porsche opc are clueless, although very friendly. Still support the mighty west brom though. While I'm at it tyres are past their best(bald) has anyone fitted anything other than michelin pilot sport cups? If so, recommendations would be gratefully accepted.


Out in Saudi, I think MPSCs will be your best bet. They are the most consistent tyre when temps get hot. Toyo R888s are very sticky/soft and may be too soft for the Saudi temps. PZero Corsas have slightly lower limits than MPSCs, and they go off sooner. MPSCs all the way based on where you are, imho.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARe the PCCBs worth anything second-hand?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they are really only of some worth to PCCB-equipped cars and owners wanting to stay "original" (ie, less concerned with actual performance/effectiveness as they would otherwise go for steels) Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you mean, considering everyone keeps raving about them, compared to good steel brakes there is poor initial bite and no feel. Like I said earlier in this thread if I had bought it from new I wouldn't have ordered them, or got full leather interior.Clubsport with a/c would be sufficient for me(don't argue with me on the a/c thing, it regularly gets up to 140 here in summer).

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody will argue about AC we consider it a must on GT3s here and were currently enjoying 9degC tops!! There's a 3 currently for sale which is worth approx 4k less due to its lack of AC.

I wouldn't worry about the PCCB's unless you're flinging it round tracks in Saudi as you'll struggle to get aftermarket replacements out there (i'd imagine). The OPC will skin you to change to steels. The PCCBs allegedly hold up ok with fast road use, its regular tracking that causes them to fall to bits.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem with them on the road at all, but it's only 20 mins to Sakhir racetrack in Bahrain, been waiting all summer for it to cool down, last track day in June was a nightmare, a bloke I know in Bahrain with a GT3 killed his rear tyres in 3 laps, they just fell apart, and going to the track is my main concern with the brakes. Also any mods I make have to be done by yours truly. I'm not kidding when I say I took my car to get a new battery and lifted the bonnet up for the mechanic and he asked me what had happened to the engine. Quite funny unless I ever have a genuine problem, then my only chance is you guys.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very funny - just like most OPC's then!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I took my car to get a new battery and lifted the bonnet up for the mechanic and he asked me what had happened to the engine.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a pretty extremem environment for tracking so guess that you're PCCBs are on borrowed time already Wink . Changing out discs n pads shouldn't be a biggie as I presume that the calipers are same for steels. Don't know if mods are required to go to alcons though.

Dunno if one of those ebay special cd copies of the workshop manual might be of use to you. I haven't bought one and have no idea if they're any good but had considered one myself as I quite like to do a bit!

Anyone tried them?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not kidding when I say I took my car to get a new battery and lifted the bonnet up for the mechanic and he asked me what had happened to the engine. Quite funny unless I ever have a genuine problem, then my only chance is you guys.


Well - while we know a bit more than that bloke - we may not be able to help with everything!

I guess the track temps are pretty high out there then.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure exactly how hot, but the rubber slid off the steel carcass, air temp about 55, so anyones guess about track temp. Just scored a genuine carbon RS rear wing from a guy who's wrote his car off, big result. Pretty good for him as well, he's not hurt and he's ordering a new 997 GT3 RS.(orange I hope)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what you get for power-sliding in those temps!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sounds like a pretty extremem environment for tracking so guess that you're PCCBs are on borrowed time already Wink . Changing out discs n padsshouldn't be a biggie as I presume that the calipers are same for steels. Don't know if mods are required to go to alcons though.


PCCB calipers are identical to the 6pot steel calipers - the only difference is the colour of the paint!

No mods required to swap to Alcons. You can easily replace your PCCBs to Alcons with an hour of your own time. Steve McHale at JZ can talk you through it completely - the discs and hats can be easily shipped out to you I'm sure.

Re temps in Saudi, I would really recommend staying with MPSCs - I don't know of any other tyre with as good temperature resistance. It would be wise to have your geometry checked to ensure you are able to wear the tyres evenly across the tread to prevent any delamination issues under such temps.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking on carnewal's site earlier and they do a steel swap for the GT2 which was reasonably priced anyone know if it fits on a GT3?





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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 minutes from Al Khobar via the Causeway to the race track - must have been Ramadan and all the Customs & Immigration guys had gone to break the fast Wink

Some half decent garages in Jubail with all the laser alignment stuff last time I was there and also I heard good things about the repair garages inside of Dh, RT & Abq Aramco compounds but you have to be an Aramcon[?] to use them.

Of course you could always drive to Qatar [good Porsche and Fezza garage there] or Dubai now the weather is getting better - rain forecast for January as usual though!


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