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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fantasmagorically superb... I'm still grinning and absolutely cream crackered... Laughing

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ok, you and Sundeep are making me very very jealous!

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Ade, those Mk2 alloys really set the car off, are the fronts GT3 ET's or Carrera ET's?

What tyres you running? I am thinking of Steve at JZ's recommendation on some Toyo r008's?

BTW, can you either tell me here where and how much the paintshield was or PM me, presumably they can do MK2's as the yellow peril seemed to get done!

Need to get the keying on my car fixed so will need a front and side respray, thinking of sticking some protection on the front at the same time, even though I hate the look of it! Might go for the RS vented look as well, Steve at JZ says he has a jig set up for us, did Manthey do yours?

BTW sorry for all the Q's! Embarassed

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when were you keyed stu?


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awhile ago!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by poon on 09 October 2006Ade, those Mk2 alloys really set the car off, are the fronts GT3 ET's or Carrera ET's?

What tyres you running? I am thinking of Steve at JZ's recommendation on some Toyo r008's?

BTW, can you either tell me here where and how much the paintshield was or PM me, presumably they can do MK2's as the yellow peril seemed to get done!

Need to get the keying on my car fixed so will need a front and side respray, thinking of sticking some protection on the front at the same time, even though I hate the look of it! Might go for the RS vented look as well, Steve at JZ says he has a jig set up for us, did Manthey do yours?

BTW sorry for all the Q's! Embarassed


Sure no probs Stu -

The wheels are GT3 ETs. They are a straight swap for the Mk1 wheels and retain the original 5mm spacer as used on the Mk1. The rear wheels require the arches to be rolled very slightly by about 3mm.

I had the car Paintshielded by these guys:
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. They are effectively a family run business, and Joe takes a lot of care to ensure the fitment of the film is spot on. Tom is the boss, and he will quote you based on what panels you want shielded. Tom posts on this forum (aka Paintshield).

The Toyo R888s are a superb tyre with exceptionally stiff sidewalls (more so than even MPSCs) and a very soft compound (softer than Corsas). They feel like slicks on the road, but they are quite good in dealing with standing water... not quite as good as Corsas, but much better than MPSCs. We are still experimenting with them somewhat... we have discovered that running Toyos allows you to have less camber because of the v.stiff sidewalls. This is the opposite to the MPSCs which love camber. Pressure wise, they need to be run at higher pressures than Corsas or MPSCs... initially we thought they felt better when run at low pressures (31psi hot), but there were reports of delamination at these pressures, and the tyre pyrometers showed uneven heat distribution. It was recently discovered that running them at around 35psi min makes for very even heat distribution. They don't last as long as MPSCs, but at half the price, no one is complaining!

Today I was running just regular PS2s for the first time, and I must admit that I was very very impressed with their performance in the early morning showers and when the track dried up for the rest of the day. Given their performance today, and until next year, I will be sticking with these and my Toyos are staying in the cupboard. Mind you, the Toyos remain leaps ahead in terms of ultimate grip and allow you to lean on them much harder, but be aware that when Toyos let go, they really let go with close to no chance of catching them...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good work Manthey I

you getting up to speed.... so how does the extra downforce now feel v the old


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A quick pic... Uwe Alzens ex-993 Cup car in the foreground...



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ade,

Great write up re the Toyo's, my original rear GT3 alloys are now sitting in the garage with PS2's down to the cord on the inside, 3-4 mm across the tyre, the fronts still have 4-5mm on!

I bought a set of GT3 carrera alloys (same style different front ET) with Bridgestone Potenza SO2's (brand new) for 1500 on eBay and have fitted the rears, Steve has just supplied the 5mm spacers to allow me to fit the fronts. So my original GT3 fronts will be going in the garage.

I need either a new set of rear PS2's as these seem to wear twice as fast as the fronts or a set of the Toyo's, I like the sound of the extra grip but not the last bit re them letting go! You know I can never keep it on the blackstuff!

You forgot to tell me who did your RS front vents? Might get mine done when I get the front end respray!

BTW, you got any trackdays in Oct and Nov, would love to see your car in the flesh since its Manthey.

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you getting up to speed.... so how does the extra downforce now feel v the old



It was really great to stretch her legs as intended today and feel the Manthey! Twisted
The added torque allows you to stay in 3rd and surf the torque when you would have otherwise dropped to 2nd. Allows for much a much smoother/more sympathetic driving style without losing the speed.

The car really feels glued to the ground... like a giant Dyson is underneath! Even through the bumpy Westfield Bend mid-corner, the car just stays down and you can stay on the power... very reassuring.

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Ade,

Great write up re the Toyo's, my original rear GT3 alloys are now sitting in the garage with PS2's down to the cord on the inside, 3-4 mm across the tyre, the fronts still have 4-5mm on!

I bought a set of GT3 carrera alloys (same style different front ET) with Bridgestone Potenza SO2's (brand new) for 1500 on eBay and have fitted the rears, Steve has just supplied the 5mm spacers to allow me to fit the fronts. So my original GT3 fronts will be going in the garage.

I need either a new set of rear PS2's as these seem to wear twice as fast as the fronts or a set of the Toyo's, I like the sound of the extra grip but not the last bit re them letting go! You know I can never keep it on the blackstuff!

You forgot to tell me who did your RS front vents? Might get mine done when I get the front end respray!

BTW, you got any trackdays in Oct and Nov, would love to see your car in the flesh since its Manthey.


I think a good compromise between the PS2s and the Toyos are the System Corsas. I know not many people rate them, but as an all purpose track/road/wet tyre, I realise that they are definitely up there as one of, if not the best all rounders. What they give up in longevity, they gain in dry track grip. What they give up in ultimate dry grip they gain in wet weather security.

If you are running only one set of wheels, System Corsas are the way to go imho. They are also quite cheap in comparison as they are classified as a regular road tyre (N6 rated). Generally only available in 235/295 sizes so perfect for Mk2 wheels.

The Toyos have very high limits... and I have yet to see/hear of someone on Toyos recover from a drift in these... another Titanicer span today when running Toyos... luckily no damage!

My front PU was done by Manthey as they also redid the radiator cooling and brake ducts. But you would surely just go for the RS bumper as yours is a Mk2?

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