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AtonedIdealist
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:38 pm    Post subject: 996 CSR C4S @RPM Technik Reply with quote

Bit of a leftfield choice, but I'm being drawn to this 996 CSR C4S at RPM Technik:

https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/996-c4s-csr

I talked to them today and it does sound intriguing. I've been looking at regular manual 996 C4S's and they are nice, but not quite 'special' or 'different' enough. I tried a Turbo but I guess I'm more of a NA-guy.

I started looking at 997.2's and they are also not really doing it for me. There's quite a few round driving around. I want something a bit more exciting as a road-driving weekend toy (plus some city driving). I'm also considering a manual 997.2 GTS, but these are rare and even more expensive.

But yes it's very expensive for a 996, and yes it's got limited resale market. But I figure a really good 996 C4S will be around £30-35k after I've got it properly sorted to my standards, so end of day it's not that crazy with all the usual bits already done plus all the custom extras. And RPM have a great reputation.

Any thoughts on this one?
 
  
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rdodger
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks nice

I see what you mean about the value but I would want to know if the usual
Radiators
Condensers
Suspension bushes
etc etc had been done

Also what is the IMS upgrade they do? 997 Larger bearing or something else?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to visit them via PCGB modified register meet last Autumn. The whole team there have a great passion for the marque and are building a reputation on their builds. Not driven any, but by all accounts are fabulous. Their latest 996 track focused CSR is simply beautiful.

The other option would be to buy a donor car and then spec as you want with their expertise. I believe they are limiting CSR builds per year to ensure quality.
 



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Robertb
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was buying a 4S now I’d be making a beeline for this;

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-carrera-996/hartech-3-9-996-carrera-4s----------------2002/10442202

If you wanted you could do a re-trim and full Ohlins set up by Center Gravity and still be well under that CSR 4s that’s had no engine work.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not for me, I’m not keen on various bits on it. But it’s not me buying it, if you like it go for it. Life’s to short not to have what you want, if you can afford it.
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jezgreen911
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fot0 wrote:
I went to visit them via PCGB modified register meet last Autumn. The whole team there have a great passion for the marque and are building a reputation on their builds. Not driven any, but by all accounts are fabulous. Their latest 996 track focused CSR is simply beautiful.

The other option would be to buy a donor car and then spec as you want with their expertise. I believe they are limiting CSR builds per year to ensure quality.


The 996 Carrera owners group on Facebook are having a meet up at RPM this Sunday morning (Fried Eggs 2) from 9am if anyone fancies it Thumb
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adamw
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jezgreen911 wrote:
The 996 Carrera owners group on Facebook are having a meet up at RPM this Sunday morning (Fried Eggs 2) from 9am if anyone fancies it Thumb


I’ve been told this groups pretty good but searched for it using “996 Carrera owners group” and I can’t find it at all. Am I doing something wrong Dont know
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MisterCorn
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jezgreen911 wrote:

The 996 Carrera owners group on Facebook are having a meet up at RPM this Sunday morning (Fried Eggs 2) from 9am if anyone fancies it Thumb


Yes, I should be there with my apprentice. He has asked if fried eggs will be available?

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GMG
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...£48k and no significant engine work Surprised
 
  
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MisterCorn
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GMG wrote:
...£48k and no significant engine work Surprised


TBF, other than something like a 3.9l Hartech conversion, there isn't a fat lot you can do on these engines. They could have fitted a later engine, or a Mezger, to get more power, but that would no doubt cost a fair bit more.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could get a gt3 for only a few £k more and that will keep its value better
 
  
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peterg1955
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamw wrote:
jezgreen911 wrote:
The 996 Carrera owners group on Facebook are having a meet up at RPM this Sunday morning (Fried Eggs 2) from 9am if anyone fancies it Thumb


I’ve been told this groups pretty good but searched for it using “996 Carrera owners group” and I can’t find it at all. Am I doing something wrong Dont know


Try
https://ww.facebook.com.groups/996owners/

or

search FB for "The Porsche 996 Carrera owners page"
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adamw
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterg1955 wrote:
adamw wrote:
jezgreen911 wrote:
The 996 Carrera owners group on Facebook are having a meet up at RPM this Sunday morning (Fried Eggs 2) from 9am if anyone fancies it Thumb


I’ve been told this groups pretty good but searched for it using “996 Carrera owners group” and I can’t find it at all. Am I doing something wrong Dont know


Try
https://ww.facebook.com.groups/996owners/

or

search FB for "The Porsche 996 Carrera owners page"


Thanks but... No joy... has the page disappeared.. strange Dont know
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EX : 95' 993 C4 Coupe ( Dec 10 - Oct 16 )
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skinny_monkey
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
If I was buying a 4S now I’d be making a beeline for this;

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-carrera-996/hartech-3-9-996-carrera-4s----------------2002/10442202

If you wanted you could do a re-trim and full Ohlins set up by Center Gravity and still be well under that CSR 4s that’s had no engine work.


Incredible car for the money
 
  
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peterg1955
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamw wrote:
peterg1955 wrote:
adamw wrote:
jezgreen911 wrote:
The 996 Carrera owners group on Facebook are having a meet up at RPM this Sunday morning (Fried Eggs 2) from 9am if anyone fancies it Thumb


I’ve been told this groups pretty good but searched for it using “996 Carrera owners group” and I can’t find it at all. Am I doing something wrong Dont know


Try
https://ww.facebook.com.groups/996owners/

or

search FB for "The Porsche 996 Carrera owners page"


Thanks but... No joy... has the page disappeared.. strange Dont know


That's weird, I've just been posting on it..... nooo
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MisterCorn
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you might need to be invited to the group, I know a few are like that. That is certainly how I joined.

MC
 
  
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Robertb
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2002 Porsche 996 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinny_monkey wrote:
Robertb wrote:
If I was buying a 4S now I’d be making a beeline for this;

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-carrera-996/hartech-3-9-996-carrera-4s----------------2002/10442202

If you wanted you could do a re-trim and full Ohlins set up by Center Gravity and still be well under that CSR 4s that’s had no engine work.


Incredible car for the money


I know... absolute no brainer for a sorted 3.9 Hartech manual 4s, £20k saving over the CSR one.
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Ghianightmare
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be goign for the Hartech one over the RPM one.

I think Hartech told me about that car last year when I was there. Owner has a number of toys and juist doesnt have time for it.

Was it advertised a few monthas back for circa £31K?

If i didnt aready ahve a 3.9 hartech in my C4S Id be grabbing that. Price is good.
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crash7
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GMG wrote:
...£48k and no significant engine work Surprised


Agree - I appreciate what RPM are trying to achieve, but the prices are just not relalistic, £50k for a C4S with bolt on modifications! - Madness!

For the same price you can get far better 996's, I apprecate you prefer N/A, but for price context.,

https://www.harbourcars.com/used-car-details/Porsche-911-(996)-U197501/
 
  
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Robertb
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed... RPM seem to price the modded cars at the build cost. Sadly life is not like that, unless your company name is Singer or Ruf.
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