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Milo72
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:47 pm    Post subject: PCM upgrade - Anyone done it recently ? Reply with quote

There are lots of posts on here about upgrading PCM to something more modern, but the ones I have found are a little dated. With technology moving as quickly as it does I wondered if anyone had replaced their head unit recently.

I have a Gen 1 with steering wheel controls and Bose

Can anyone recommend a 1 stop shop where I can get everything? Happy to fit it myself but unsure what I do and don’t need.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in the same boat atm. Would love to know what gets put on this thread
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar here - Gen2 with BOSE and mf steering wheel, seeking upgrades to maps, nav and Bluetooth etc
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a Gen 2 - looking at getting a pioneer or Kenwood. With CarPlay, DAB, etc...

Quoted at about £800 all in. Just looking into it. Be nice to hear from someone who has already done it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:49 am    Post subject: Hifi Install Reply with quote

I've had many installs done at Unique in Lightwater
https://www.uniquecarsound.com/
Their attention to detail is excellent, great pricing etc and people come to them from across the UK due to huge Mercedes following and what they can do for the Mercedes Command system.
That being said they did a great double din, amp, and speaker install in my previous 4s 996 many years ago along with another stealth unstall in my Gallardo.
Give them a call and tell them Greg Wheeler sent you.. Its well worth the trip...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted in the other thread but here's my past 996 C4s many mooins ago... read my post in the other duplicate thread.....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went from this .......



To this.....





Mainly as I wanted DAB!
Keep all the steering wheel controls and now got hands free. (It’s BOSE as well)
Happy all round with it 👍
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:03 am    Post subject: Android PCM Replacement Reply with quote

Ive fitted in the last two weeks an Android unit that is specifically designed for the 997 & 987 double din aperture.

Its the 3rd ive fitted and i couldn't be more pleased with them.

As there Android i can connect to my phone or home router and download apps from the Google Play store. Ive currently got x 3 Navigation apps and a customised media player for MP3 files or Bluetooth streaming.

NB. The previous owner had already changed the colour of the center console from silver to black.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just fitted a rennline magnetic phone holder to the side of the PCM and put my phone there, the screen is almost as large as the PCM so I have the best of both worlds.......I also get to retain the ability to change some functions on the car via the PCM3 (ie if you have sport chrono you also get more car setting options via PCM)......worked for me great last year

I have Bluetooth music streamed via a plug in module fitted in the armrest so I can do everything via the phone and car speakers using an interface I use all the time. I also use the free tom tom amigo app in overlay mode, I’ve set it to boot up automatically when the phone connects to the cars Bluetooth and run it in overlay mode for camera alerts ie you only need to get in the car and you have camera alerts.....even works with the phone in my pocket as I can hear it warning me lol

Nb 987.2 and samsung 10 5G phone (large screen)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great pics guys keep them coming. What sort of prices did you pay?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://caraudiosecurity.com/ - They are in Hayes, the owner has a 997 GT3 and a 993.

Just had mine replaced with a Kenwood 8019. What a transformation!
It has some buttons and has a touch screen. Volume is done with updown buttons and I can activate Siri with a button.
It is night and day. I can now use Waze safely and make calls using Siri and have messages read out to me that I can reply to with voice instructions.
DAB radio is good and I can use all my radio apps via carplay.

Cost wise I got the stereo new off ebay for £390, and the fitting plus fitting kit was £170 and £175.
I have had the car several months now and had been working out if I should replace the PCM or not. Glad I did as it has transformed things fro me.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fulla any pics of your kenwood install Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
Fulla any pics of your kenwood install Thumb

I'll get some and post them up tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couple of quick photos taken when i get home.The screen is a touch screen but i also like that this unit has button. Especially helpful are the up & down for volume and the one button that activates siri for voice control.
I can take more tomorrow to show Waze or Google maps. The next Kenwood model up has inbuilt nav but i do not see the point as i can bluetooth,wifi,cable my phone and the unit has a gps arial if you loose phone coverage.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that looks just the job think I am going to colour code the surrounds to my center console Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember a guy who replace everything with an iPad mini quite some time ago. Not sure this will work now as we are on the 5th gen (?) but I can’t see why not. Here’s the link to the install:

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum/729871-ipad-mini-on-the-997-a.html

Obviously has the added benefit of being removed and thus can be use out of the car too. I seem to remember another install where a guy found someone who made bezels. The colour match and Porsche logo sticker he did were top drawer and looked OEM.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattyR wrote:
I remember a guy who replace everything with an iPad mini quite some time ago


Didn't Ragpicker put an iPad in his dash Dont know

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattyR wrote:
I remember a guy who replace everything with an iPad mini quite some time ago. Not sure this will work now as we are on the 5th gen (?) but I can’t see why not. Here’s the link to the install:

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum/729871-ipad-mini-on-the-997-a.html

Obviously has the added benefit of being removed and thus can be use out of the car too. I seem to remember another install where a guy found someone who made bezels. The colour match and Porsche logo sticker he did were top drawer and looked OEM.


That made for a very interesting read. I was wondering though - how he played the radio through the standard amp and speakers. I thought I saw he used a Denison bluetooth, however would this not be powered up without the PCM connected?

I too am trying to plan which headunit to go for on my gen1. Id prefer satnav on the headunit rather than relying on phone connection, however apple car play would be handy too.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked my 997.2 on Friday, it has PCM 3 but with no phone module. Thought I'd check with Sheffield OPC about possibility of upgrade with phone module and map update, costs as follows:

Phone module £715 plus 3.5 hours labour
Map update £350 plus 30 mins labour

Labour at £150 per hour = £600

I'm not keen to fit an aftermarket head unit as I don't want to lose dedicated Porsche functionality, trip, fuel consumption etc., so will have to look for best blue tooth solution for my phone.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Westy997 wrote:
I picked my 997.2 on Friday, it has PCM 3 but with no phone module. Thought I'd check with Sheffield OPC about possibility of upgrade with phone module and map update, costs as follows:

Phone module £715 plus 3.5 hours labour
Map update £350 plus 30 mins labour

Labour at £150 per hour = £600

I'm not keen to fit an aftermarket head unit as I don't want to lose dedicated Porsche functionality, trip, fuel consumption etc., so will have to look for best blue tooth solution for my phone.


Im in the same position, whilst mine came with Phone Sim, Nav & CD changer I like the PCM features. Interesting if we can just buy an updated nav cd?

As for the Bluetooth, if i dont change the headunit I shall fit a Denison bluetooth. it plugs into the frunk instead of the CD changer and research shows its the best option. Sounds like its the option you are after
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