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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets have a wager Smile

When are people gonna realise the whole thing is the biggest hoax since God?

You only have to listen to some of the World's most respected scientists to realise nobody has a single clue what's going on.

Freeman Dyson for example:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DF - I disagree. Battery technology is changing at such a rapid rate; in 10-years time we'll be using new technologies that do not use Lithium and capacity will be double or triple what it is today.

Yes, we need investment in infrastructure and production; one of my businesses is involved in solar energy and we've got private funding for £1bn of projects already and money available from US, China and the Middle East to do more.

Further, it wont be long that in-country Gov in many countries will force the write-down of fossil based assets for any company that doesn't have green/renewable power alternatives (thats why BP, et el) are jumping in to Solar in a big way). And thats before you get to companies being publicly graded on their green credentials...

For my part, in 15-20 years time, you'll find half the petrol stations in the country will have closed or converted to fast charging stations.

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Okay there's no shortage of fossil fuels, they're being found at an astronomical rate. You will never beat the energy density of petrol using batteries because the combustion process of fuel requires two elements, air and fuel and they're mixed at a ratio which means the 12 to 16 times more air you need isn't being carried around in the car, and fuel burns off and becomes lighter. Batteries lose power and never change weight and their energy density can never be like petrol can.

The national grid in the UK cannot support the use of wide spread electric cars and even if from today every single car being sold on the market was electric it would still take 25 years to replace every fossil fuel car on the road. The percentage of cars on the road which are new is tiny and the percentage of those which are electric is unbelievably small.

Sorry but you're living in a dream world of media hype and your numbers don't add up.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osh's been watching too much of the license fee'd propaganda channel. The battery/electric thing is a bag of shoite and a massive lie. I've been doing work this week for a laboratory who analyse failures in equipment and decipher what the problem is. They're currently working on gas powered engines that wind farms have as back-up for when the windmills aren't producing any lecky. All the engines are packing up as they're getting that much hammer and that many cold starts, continually day in day out. And they're not that efficient when they are running anyway.

You're all being lied to and the naive amongst us are believing it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon Osh, tell us, are you back on the glue? Question

I had to take him down to Glue Sniffer's Anonymous once. True story.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is glue a fossil fuel? Dont know Grin
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We certainly appear to be burning a lot of gas tonight.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex wrote:
Osh's been watching too much of the license fee'd propaganda channel. The battery/electric thing is a bag of shoite and a massive lie. I've been doing work this week for a laboratory who analyse failures in equipment and decipher what the problem is. They're currently working on gas powered engines that wind farms have as back-up for when the windmills aren't producing any lecky. All the engines are packing up as they're getting that much hammer and that many cold starts, continually day in day out. And they're not that efficient when they are running anyway.

You're all being lied to and the naive amongst us are believing it.


When a fully electric vehicle wins the 24hr of Le Mans I'll consider one, and it sure as ***** won't happen in my life time. So think I'm safe Floor

Unless they start changing batteries in pit stops, or they ban IC engines from the event. Then I'll just stop watching.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit wrote:
We certainly appear to be burning a lot of gas tonight.


Lucky you, I guess valentine's helps Dont know

Sitting here with my laptop rather than with a lap dance Grin

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet the wind turbines are all turned off tomorrow Grin
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex wrote:
Lets have a wager Smile

When are people gonna realise the whole thing is the biggest hoax since God?

You only have to listen to some of the World's most respected scientists to realise nobody has a single clue what's going on.

Freeman Dyson for example:



Hoax or not Alex the powers that write our laws and policies are fully invested and pushing this.

I hope people realise that these guys/gals don't work for us no matter how many times we elect or re-elect them!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're only pushing it for 2 reasons:

1. Tax generator.

2. Virtue signaler vote baging.

To give in is for pussies. I will fight to my death for what I believe is right and there's never been a more important time to do it. Old
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we are missing point in this post, it wasn't about GreenDeal but if you consider put electric to 911, so chill out guys Very Happy

So perhaps I will just point out what I was planning to do:

My BMW 635 CSI nice old best BMW ever, car will be send out for full body restoration not that is so bad as I was driving it for 2 years but slowly rust take it over, so I stuck with the same dilemma ICE with very bad MPG or go for something crazy and install electric motor.

After hours of research and different option best solution is to buy tesla on COPART, but cost and work that has to be done for me is just tooooooo much.

Conclusion BMW 635 CSI engine could be easily tuned to 500+ BHP numbers without spending ££££, electric probably will be catching more attention and super crazy fast with 100's problems to deal with so NO NO for me.

911 convert to electric will cost even more as there is not as much space, so for that money I would buy 991 gt3 complete engine and just pay for some maniac #MisterCorn Cool to fit it if rebuild/conversion do not appeal.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thumbsup Spot on Szy!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obvious to see that the answer to this is Nuclear. My mate's daughter works in the Nuclear industry and her current project is designing Nuclear powered micro-turbines. Size equivalent of you local sub-station. These things will be the future, like it or not.

Ps: The wind figure is a blatant lie!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would that wind figure be falsified Alex?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How would that wind figure be falsified Alex?


Because many of the wind farms have back-up gas generators that kick in multiple times a day to continue generating electric when the wind isn't blowing (as I stated in my post above).

These:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that's not counted as part of the gas figure?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And that's not counted as part of the gas figure?


I very much doubt it as they run in parallel with the wind mills at point of output. I may be wrong but I doubt it. Those figures quoted in the chart will be a percentage of each sector.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't see diesel in that chart either Grin

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/wind/uk-must-use-diesel-generators-to-back-up-wind-turbines/
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd thought that companies like Sembcorp were separate to the wind generation companies, and provided power rapidly at times of load on the grid and/or low wind availability, and would be counted as part of the gas generation figure?

https://www.sembcorp.co.uk/
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