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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:07 pm    Post subject: 991.1 GT3 Potential Purchase - What to look out for Reply with quote

Been a member on here for many years but hasn’t been in a position to own one. Looks like this may change but still not 100% as need to pass by house CFO..., etc.

What should I be looking out for? Clearly will be looking at a car with OPC warranty. Issue is that you don’t see many CS models at OPC’s and if they do they’re either priced at the high end or don’t hang around.

How does the warranty work with sales through non OPC dealer even though the car states xx balance of OPC warranty. I know the G engine is the one to go for with regards to issues on older models blowing up. Frankly I don’t mind either E/F/G engines as I believe they all have a 10yr warranty albeit between 3-4yrs left for most. Is this statement factually correct, if not, would be fab getting anyone’s view.

Here are some examples I’ve been eying - any thoughts or better yet, are the owners on here.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-991/porsche-911-991-gt3-pdk-front-lift-system-pccb-porsche-ext-warranty/9462880

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-991/porsche-991-gt3-pdk---lifting-ceramics-sports-seats-great-spec-only-6000-mls/10100589

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-991/porsche-911-pdk-auto-gt3-semiautomatic-white-2014/10358883

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-991/porsche-911-991-gt3-pdk-club-sport-pts-riviera-blue-and-porsche-warranty-to-march-2021-----------------2014/10155099


Finally anyone thinking of selling drop me a pm. Needs to Clubsport model..
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 991.1 GT3 Potential Purchase - What to look out for Reply with quote

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…….. How does the warranty work with sales through non OPC dealer even though the car states xx balance of OPC warranty ……....



If a car is sold to you by anyone other than the current owner or an OPC the warranty becomes invalid.

The dealer advertising the car in this way is effectively stating that they are acting as a broker between the current owner and you so the warranty can remain valid.

To protect myself I'd want to be satisfied that this is definitely what is happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome

GT3 for the win worship

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are still issues with the G series engines. It appears to be in cars that are regularly hitting the limiter at 9k. So those using it on track and driving in sport auto, where the car shifts at 9k, will have more chance of a failure.

What you don’t know is what the previous owner did with it. If they drove it hard on the track, the engine might be on its way to failing.

I think it’s a bit of a lottery with the 991.1. Personally I wouldn’t touch one, and as the 991.2 becomes more affordable, and we get closer to the end of that warranty, I suspect many others will feel the same. So residuals may well be a problem.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

991.2GTS wrote:
There are still issues with the G series engines. It appears to be in cars that are regularly hitting the limiter at 9k. So those using it on track and driving in sport auto, where the car shifts at 9k, will have more chance of a failure.

What you don’t know is what the previous owner did with it. If they drove it hard on the track, the engine might be on its way to failing.

I think it’s a bit of a lottery with the 991.1. Personally I wouldn’t touch one, and as the 991.2 becomes more affordable, and we get closer to the end of that warranty, I suspect many others will feel the same. So residuals may well be a problem.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Last year I had a desire for GT3 CS package version, When I started think what I wanted was a 2015 f-series engine/CS. In a perfect world a PTS colour as they are rare and I had a soft spot for Riviera blue colour. In regards for carbon interior/ceramic brakes, they weren’t top of my list. In the end I managed to find a 2015 Riviera blue/CS with steel brakes and extended leather with red stitching, i was also very lucky to find a 2 owner car. I feel lucky to have such an awesome car,think right place right time. I’ve added the sharkwerks bypass pipe/100m tips to improve the sound.

2015 engines don’t come with a engine warranty, as the issues were fixed. I do have Porsche warranty which would cover me anyway.

Good luck with you find.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if there is even a hint that you can get into one without too much flack from air traffic control/handbrake/SWIMBO then just do it and fast

its a GT3 and its amazing. that engine sound.

if tis blows you have a warranty

how many people really keep them for 5-10 years before flipping? some 996 and 997 are very long term like NXI but in the minority.

get in one and enjoy every single minute of it and go bust the Tower!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all for the comments. Will keep you updated - clearly making sure the warranty is not affected in anyway is a top priority.

What are the must haves option wise ? For me here is my top pick list:
1) Club Sport
2) Front lift
3) cruise control
4) ceramic discs
5) some carbon would be nice
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flatout wrote:
Thanks all for the comments. Will keep you updated - clearly making sure the warranty is not affected in anyway is a top priority.

What are the must haves option wise ? For me here is my top pick list:
1) Club Sport
2) Front lift
3) cruise control
4) ceramic discs
5) some carbon would be nice


4 litre engine Thumb presuming a gen 2 is out of reach, although at the moment prices seem in freefall on the gen 2...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I would try and work a bit harder on the Home Secretary and see if I could up the budget to get into a gen 2 GT3, I reckon £130k would get you one that ticks all the boxes especially this time of year.

The engine issue on the gen 1 is always going to frighten buyers and that 10 year warranty ain’t got long left now, due to the flippers realising what the preferred spec was on these cars you have a lot more CS .2’s about with PCCB , lift, carbon and cruise.

Only down side I can see is a lack of PTS on the .2 but Miami Blue isn’t that far away from Riv Blue.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flatout wrote:
Thanks all for the comments. Will keep you updated - clearly making sure the warranty is not affected in anyway is a top priority.

What are the must haves option wise ? For me here is my top pick list:
1) Club Sport
2) Front lift
3) cruise control
4) ceramic discs
5) some carbon would be nice


Double post and the perfect storm Grin

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the 991.1 GT3 and have had the engine replaced under warranty. The car is fantastic especially with the upgraded inconel exhaust and more importantly the DSC suspension module, which makes a really big improvement.

In terms of what to look out for I understand there is a rear suspension fail if it has been tracked hard and this was from Ken at 9e (it is covered by Porsche, but very costly).

I believe the GT3 needs to be driven and I have done 7k in the first year and hope to do 10k this coming year. These cars need hard use.

Great car and great engine
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been looking at the market for a while, there has been a significant reduction in cars available over the last 8-10 months. Many have been for sale a fair while(the first link you posted for example - agate grey car). Maybe there will be a few more around once the weather picks up. If you like white (I don’t!) you will have a better chance, seems most popular colour. I was lucky and got pretty much the spec I was after a couple of weeks ago, low miles and a fair price. I still keep an eye on things but not a lot has come on since Christmas. Enjoy the search, that’s half the fun!
 



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was white, then it was wrapped....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

......as far as what to look out for, the usual of course, tyres, brakes, servicing, costly if you need all at once. As mentioned Porsche warranty, but would need to be private sale (do your homework re the transaction, as many have outstanding finance, not an issue but prepare accordingly). The other option, SOR but you will pay more vs private due to dealer spread. Crash damage, worth getting a respected independent inspection. 10yr engine warranty can be debated of course as can engine issues in general, but looks like a c£30k premium to get into a .2 car - only you will know if the premium is worth it......
Awesome car though, that engine! Handling! Steering feel! Worth every penny....if you can get into one do it! Took me a while to persuade the boss, but got there in the end Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kas750 wrote:
991.2GTS wrote:
There are still issues with the G series engines. It appears to be in cars that are regularly hitting the limiter at 9k. So those using it on track and driving in sport auto, where the car shifts at 9k, will have more chance of a failure.

What you don’t know is what the previous owner did with it. If they drove it hard on the track, the engine might be on its way to failing.

I think it’s a bit of a lottery with the 991.1. Personally I wouldn’t touch one, and as the 991.2 becomes more affordable, and we get closer to the end of that warranty, I suspect many others will feel the same. So residuals may well be a problem.

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Agreed, wait a little longer and get the 991.2
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP - JZM have just got a 991.1 club sport in, black, PCCB, 9k miles, it’s not on their website yet (look on FB). No price noted yet either. They have a good rep, so might be worth a look....
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mankers wrote:
OP - JZM have just got a 991.1 club sport in, black, PCCB, 9k miles, it’s not on their website yet (look on FB). No price noted yet either. They have a good rep, so might be worth a look....


Thanks - I’ve seen that pop up on my alerts so will take a closer look in the coming weeks.

What do you think of this one? https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/911-GT3-137419

Colour is not to everyone’s taste but I don’t mind yellow... has had a few owners. Understand this is common especially in the earlier days when flippers were involved..
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flatout wrote:
What do you think of this one? https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/911-GT3-137419


That is amazing Surprised

There is a chap on here who may be along shortly that likes yellow...a lot

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flatout wrote:
mankers wrote:
OP - JZM have just got a 991.1 club sport in, black, PCCB, 9k miles, it’s not on their website yet (look on FB). No price noted yet either. They have a good rep, so might be worth a look....


Thanks - I’ve seen that pop up on my alerts so will take a closer look in the coming weeks.

What do you think of this one? https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/911-GT3-137419

Colour is not to everyone’s taste but I don’t mind yellow... has had a few owners. Understand this is common especially in the earlier days when flippers were involved..


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Hmmm I’m not sure you’re ready to join the owners club with that attitude Mad Grin That’s the Mereside motors car discussed recently (see below). Was sold recently for 115 k about 6 months ago, had 2.3 k on the clock. ( it was reduced then from 125k)

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=133041

Around 10k cheaper than 10 months ago, shows the market, it’s depreciated a grand a month, more as it’s priced now at an OPC. With The spec, miles and colour (GT3’s shouldn’t be boring!) it looks a cracker. I looked at last year and it was mint condition.
You’ll get 4 years warranty effectively (2 + 2) Personally I’d be over there today with the deposit! (Considering the owners I’d want to look for signs of track use, and at the Ceramics, and with the mega low miles the service history, plus how many engine changes?) I’d suggest with any GT3 you’d need to do the same, but the 4 year piece of mind would be enough for me. The brakes looked as new when I viewed it, the front end immaculate.
I’d still want a few grand off the asking price too.
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