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stefant
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:05 pm    Post subject: 997 shifter and new shift cables Reply with quote

Just installed a new 997 shifter and shift cables it has transformed the gear changes! Gone has the sloppy long throw - much more positive and tight
Also centres as it should.

Don’t know how much was down to the shifter and how much down to the cables.

The shifter is reasonable from the OPC with usual 10% discount. The cables are more expensive!

Well worth doing.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking short shifter Dont know
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope just the standard 997 shifter, which has a shorter shift than the standard 996. Wasn’t keen on a short shift
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you post up part numbers / prices? Pondering the same!!

Ian
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a used 987/997 standard shifter off eBay a year ago for £45 - they show very little wear (unlike the 986/996 version which go a bit sloppy) so a good way to save money Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

997 gear shifter: 99742401000

got it for about £155 after discount from Porsche centre Chester. My cables needed doing too, but yours may not...
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the 997 shifter but mines terrible!! All down to the cables, one of which has seen better days. I’m swapping to numeric racing cables so I’ll report back on those as an upgrade
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 997.2 GT3 shifter runs on metal bushes, thats the one i went for:


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also interested in this as my shifter feels a bit sloppy. Honest opinions on what is the best option:
- 997 or 997 GT3 shifter
- Aftermarket SS (ebay / generic)
- Stock shifter with bushes from ebay SS kit

I'm not looking for an exceptionally short throw, which I fear the ebay kits will have, but rather a crips, smooth action with no play.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve,

Is there much of a price difference between 997 and 997gt3? Also do you have the part number?


And a general question - apart from cables are there any bushes / connectors Etc worth replacing whilst changing the selector?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, I'd like the same. Have often wondered if the bushings can be replaced rather than the whole unit??
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From memory.
I paid circa £140 for the 997 shifter which is a shorter throw than the 996 but plastic bushed. The gt3 with the metal bushing was circa £350. All from Porsche with club discount. I had an eBay modded shifter fitted (previous owner) it was terrible!!!
I do feel replacement cables will make a huge difference. Watch some early reviews when the cars were new and no one says ‘oh the gear change is horrid’. Fast forward 18years with 18 years worth of wearing out done and everyone’s moaning about it!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rgracin wrote:
As above, I'd like the same. Have often wondered if the bushings can be replaced rather than the whole unit??


If you want metal bushes added to your shifter or to an aftermarket SSK contact Alex on here as he engineers them . they are very good and a fair price.

the GT3 shifter is the same throw as the standard 997 shifter but has metal bushes so it gives a much more solid rifle action gear change

If you want a standard 997 throw but the best you can get then the GT3 is the one to have if you want an SSK with metal bushes or your own shifter modified to metal bushes then Alex is your guy. Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paynewright wrote:
Steve,

Is there much of a price difference between 997 and 997gt3? Also do you have the part number?

Ian


try 99742401091

I think i paid about £250 for mine several years ago from Porsche with PCGB discount.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Alex only made the bushes for the ebay SS kits, but there is another option for upgrading the OEM bushes from Phoenix Engineering which i have fitted on my car and can't fault them as they much improve slop.

https://phenixengineering.com/shop/porsche-997-gt3-style-billet-shift-bushing-kit/
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thefinn wrote:
I thought Alex only made the bushes for the ebay SS kits, but there is another option for upgrading the OEM bushes from Phoenix Engineering which i have fitted on my car and can't fault them as they much improve slop.

https://phenixengineering.com/shop/porsche-997-gt3-style-billet-shift-bushing-kit/


Thats what I thought too re Alex as I wanted to stay with the standard shift, so I went for the Function First Shift-Right kit, which also replaces the 'yoke' with a billet alu section. Didn't know about the Phenix kit, which is a lot cheaper.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
Thefinn wrote:
I thought Alex only made the bushes for the ebay SS kits, but there is another option for upgrading the OEM bushes from Phoenix Engineering which i have fitted on my car and can't fault them as they much improve slop.

https://phenixengineering.com/shop/porsche-997-gt3-style-billet-shift-bushing-kit/


Thats what I thought too re Alex as I wanted to stay with the standard shift, so I went for the Function First Shift-Right kit, which also replaces the 'yoke' with a billet alu section. Didn't know about the Phenix kit, which is a lot cheaper.


Finn , Robert you may both be correct Alex may not do metal bushes for the standard only the SSK but both the options you mention look good as options to improve the standard shifter . Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case anyone else is interested, the Phenix shipping is a flat rate of $14.50 to the UK, I just tried it with 24 sets as an example and it was the same amount for shipping (I guess they don't weigh very much...) so maybe time for a little Group Buy?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterg1955 wrote:
In case anyone else is interested, the Phenix shipping is a flat rate of $14.50 to the UK, I just tried it with 24 sets as an example and it was the same amount for shipping (I guess they don't weigh very much...) so maybe time for a little Group Buy?


Good idea but you might want to factor in the import tax and charge for the handler to process it as it still might be cheaper to buy them individually as i think it will come under the threshold.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thefinn wrote:
I thought Alex only made the bushes for the ebay SS kits, but there is another option for upgrading the OEM bushes from Phoenix Engineering which i have fitted on my car and can't fault them as they much improve slop.

https://phenixengineering.com/shop/porsche-997-gt3-style-billet-shift-bushing-kit/


Alex modified my 'standard 997' shift for me very successfully.
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